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GOP Surrender Monkeys Portman, Braun, Thune Accept 'President-elect' Biden
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 14 December 2020 10:39 PM | Newsmax

Posted on 12/15/2020 8:03:13 AM PST by Dr. Franklin

‘While most Republican lawmakers remain on the sidelines awaiting President Trump’s legal contests, several leading senators are accepting the results of Monday’s Electoral College.

Here are senators:

"The orderly transfer of power is a hallmark of our democracy, and although I supported President Trump, the Electoral College vote today makes clear that Joe Biden is now President-elect," said Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio.

Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., claimed he was "disappointed by the results of the Electoral College vote" but said that "we must put aside politics and respect the constitutional process that determines the winner of our presidential election."

Senate Majority Whip John Thune R-S.D., said: "I understand there are people who feel strongly about the outcome of this election, but in the end at some point you have to face the music. And I think once the Electoral College settles the issue today, it's time for everybody to move on." ’

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: fakeheadline; realitysettingin
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To: kiryandil
Wait'll the Repubes get a load of us not showing up to the polls in 2021 and 2022. The number I'm getting is that we're 25-30% of the Republican base.

With the new Dominion software, you aren't needed. The Dems will now vote for you. The lesson from this "election" is that your vote means nothing. It's 1775 all over again. Self-government is dead.
21 posted on 12/15/2020 8:22:04 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"The orderly transfer of power is a hallmark of our democracy" Portman doesn't even know what form of government we have. Time to show this bitch the door in 2022.

Because peope accepted that the elections were free and fair, there was an orderly, and peaceful, transition of power. When people don't accept that the elections were free and fair, then events look like the Maidan in Ukraine. Those who accept "Presdident-Elect Biden" embrace Minsk on the Potomac.
22 posted on 12/15/2020 8:27:35 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

That’s not how I roll. Unlike you surrender monkey Freepers, I dont accept the outcome of the game when there’s a few seconds left.

If 1/6, child molester rapist joe is sworn in, he’s sworn in. Big freakin deal. I move on. I have a lot of hatred in my heart, so I’ll swim in it for until 1/6 okay?


23 posted on 12/15/2020 8:27:44 AM PST by max americana (fired liberal employees at every election since 2008 because I enjoy seeing them cry )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Portman very quickly showed his true colors (commie red) after becoming a Senator.

And I’m glad the weird fetish FReepers used to have for putting backstabbing hack John Thune on a presidential ticket (”he’s handsome and speaks well”) seems to have faded completely. They were all for making that douchebag veep about a decade ago.

All these dopes need to be retired.


24 posted on 12/15/2020 8:28:11 AM PST by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

That’s how evil wins. They use the perception of numbers to intimidate. What if all the republicans were to stand up and say this was a fraud election? The media would crap themselves. They would scramble to control the narrative the Biden won. But when you have weakness on the right, and they play along with the deception, then the side of evil becomes more powerful and forces the rest of the country, ( because people in power don’t want to be criticized or made to look like a kook) to be silent and go along with it.


25 posted on 12/15/2020 8:32:30 AM PST by dragonblustar ( Fight the China take over!!!!!)
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To: Dr. Franklin

The Surrender Monkeys of the Senate, and the Surrender Caucus, in the House are beyond reprehensible.

May they rot.

We need to name/shame all of them.

#NeverForget


26 posted on 12/15/2020 8:34:34 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow,)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Time to #WalkAway from the GOP.....


27 posted on 12/15/2020 8:35:02 AM PST by freddy005
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To: Dr. Franklin

This is not over!

Understand this: When all that is left to play out is over, Donald Trump has a better chance of winning than Joe Biden does.

Don’t listen to Democrat “experts” lying to you about the result of the competing lists submitted by the courageous legislators in seven states.

They will call all of the remaining necessary moves Trump has “desperate and doomed to failure.” His moves will be nether disparate nor doomed to failure.

When the seven state legislatures, that did so, submitted their competing list of Electoral College voters yesterday everything swung back to Trump’s favor.

The Electoral Count Act (ECA) of 1887 says each chamber of Congress will separately decide which slate of ‘dueling electors’ to accept, but the Senate will decide how the competing lists impact the Vice Presidential election and the House of Representatives will decide how the competing lists impact the Presidential election.

The legislators who submitted competing list of EC voters have acted under the authority of the United States Constitution. Therefore, they did not need permission from their governor to act.

The fact that the Governor of Michigan ultimately failed to stop the Legislators in her state from submitting a competing list of Electoral College voters goes a long way to affirming the legislator’s rights under the US Constitution.

What these courageous men and women did, is all that is important now.

The competing lists these states submitted will cause challenges to the lists submitted by the Secretaries of State in Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin on January 5.

These challenges, which must be made in writing and signed by one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives, will be considered by both Houses and both must agree to reject the challenge or – presumably they stand.

So, the Constitution leans toward the challengers.
There would be two hours of debate allotted, but I don’t know if that would be two hours for each challenge or two aggregate hours covering all challenges.

Since all challenges would be on substantially the same grounds they probably would be covered in the two hour timeframe.

Considering the Electoral College vote values in each of the contested states, if the challenges involving just Pennsylvania – 20, Georgia – 16 and Arizona- 11 were upheld, they would result in a Trump victory at 279/259.

The evidence of voter fraud in each of these states is overwhelming to any fair observer.

What is more likely is that these challenges would either all be accepted or all be rejected since they would all be based on the same claims of fraud by Democrats. Winning all of these challenges would mean a 316/222 ECv win for Trump.

How it goes in each House-Senate first:
In the Senate, where only the winner of the vice presidential election is voted on, even if we lose both seats in the Georgia runoffs, a tie is produced and a Senate tie is broken by the President of the Senate who is Vice President Michael Pence.

Since they would be not be voting directly for or against Trump, the unreliable and sometimes Trump hostile core of Republicans in the Senate- Romney, Murkowski, Sasse and Collins would likely not try to hurt Trump. It is a safe bet Pence wins.

In the House of Representatives where only the winner of the presidential election considered:

Unlike in the Senate, where each member votes, the House of Representatives would choose the President by a vote from each state which would get just one vote. That voter would be determined by the Congressional delegation in each state.

The incoming House of Representatives will include a Republican advantage in 27 of the state delegations – a candidate needs 26 votes to win the White House.

If the two chambers disagree, we could end up in uncharted territory; and the matter would go to the Supreme Court. In that case the Court would have to be swayed by the “will of the people.”

It is not hard to imagine that the Justices would look at the established rampant Democrat voter fraud with no allegations of Republican voter fraud in this election and take “judicial notice” of it.

In the absence of anything else to consider (they will not accept a case from the Democrats asking them to change the constitution for them); it is hard to see how the Court could ignore the large number (315) of EVvs Trump will have gotten.

I believe that would weigh heavily in favor of finding for President Trump.

All of this means the Republican competing lists would eventually bring victory for President Trump.

So, after all our prayers, all our volunteer work, all our contributions, all our lawsuits and all our investigative work, we are in a good position to win.

In any contest, as time runs out, it is always best to be either a clear winner or in a position to win. Today we can say we are in a clear winner position that is much more preferable to Joe Biden’s position.

Media lies:
You definitely will not hear anything about how this is likely to play out and Trump will win.

The media will continue to ignore the competing lists or dishonestly call them desperate stunts.

They will keep pumping out their propaganda – we must keep praying for God’s help.

To make this process far less stressful we must win both seats in Georgia, please do what you can to help make this happen.


28 posted on 12/15/2020 8:36:22 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: Dr. Franklin

“...but in the end at some point you have to face the music.”

Well, that part of his statement is true.


29 posted on 12/15/2020 8:38:34 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: dragonblustar
That’s how evil wins. They use the perception of numbers to intimidate. What if all the republicans were to stand up and say this was a fraud election?...

The quote that is attributed to Edmund Burke is, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." We have a lot of do-nothings" in the GOP, and its time for action, not surrender.
30 posted on 12/15/2020 8:39:51 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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Their flag should be an image of a ww2 french rifle


31 posted on 12/15/2020 8:42:05 AM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There might not be any 2022+ elections!


32 posted on 12/15/2020 8:43:18 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: dragonblustar

2/3 of the House Republicans supported the TX lawsuit, essentially making it clear they think fraud/violations of election laws threw the election. Nothing happened. And the media definitely didn’t care except to accuse them of having tin foil hats. Unfortunately, Republicans just aren’t the ones with the real power in this country. Even if 100% of Congressional Republicans supported our side on this I don’t see how that would actually change who becomes president at this point.

Considering all the pressures (and threats and slanders) against them, I’m actually surprised that the majority of Republican officials appear to be openly supporting our side. If this were 2016, I doubt 1/5 would be publicly standing with Trump.


33 posted on 12/15/2020 8:44:59 AM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: jmaroneps37
All of this means the Republican competing lists would eventually bring victory for President Trump.

Only if party unity holds in at least the Senate. What the surrender monkeys are advertising is that they intend to surrender and collaborate. I've noted that by accepting Biden and an also likely rigged House election won by Dems, McConnell and Romney and their ilk now have a monopoly on stopping the radical Dems, i.e., that THEY are the opposition and who else do you have? By getting rid of Trump, they now control the party. They need to be made to understand that they have miscalculated. Personally, I am waiting for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act. That may follow the DNI's report due by the end of the week.
34 posted on 12/15/2020 8:47:21 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Dr. Franklin

If the Romney wing of the Republican Party wins, they are going to be shocked at how many current Republicans leave the party. I will be one of them.


35 posted on 12/15/2020 8:48:48 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Dr. Franklin

You are in denial, you are not facing reality. These quislings won’t be primaried. Free elections are over if this fraud stands. This is it! Either we turn this election over and give Mr. Trump his rightful win, or our republic is over. Our only hope is Mr. Trump putting a stop to this and cleaning up our elections.

Why can’t you see, if we allow these fraudulent practices to continue, we won’t be primarying anyone. Our Republic is lost. This is it, we win, or it is over.


36 posted on 12/15/2020 8:48:52 AM PST by erkelly
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To: Dr. Franklin

All the usual RINOs.


37 posted on 12/15/2020 8:51:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Dr. Franklin

There is no hope of winning the count on Jan 6th. Biden will be President and will be inaugurated on Jan 20th. No amount of conspiracy nonsense is going to change that.


38 posted on 12/15/2020 8:54:21 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: jmaroneps37

Thanks for the in-depth analysis! I do hope you’re right. -_-


39 posted on 12/15/2020 9:08:28 AM PST by Sarcasm Factory (Being a friend of the Clintons is like being bosom buddies with a great white shark.)
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To: Dr. Franklin
We're now back to principled common sense Republicans who put Country over party and will reach across the aisle to get things done. The Republicans hate the President,never wanted the President and did everything to obstruct the President. Now they plan to their collect the payoff since it's back to business as usual. Oh and if an outsider arises they now have the means to make sure they never reach the vote total to take the nomination. 2024 will be Jeb’s! turn.
40 posted on 12/15/2020 9:11:08 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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