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QAnon are pinning their last desperate hopes on Trump emerging as president on March 4
Yahoo! ^ | Feb 27 | Joshua Zitser

Posted on 02/28/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by RandFan

Where does the conspiracy theory come from?

The belief that Trump will be sworn in on March 4 is rooted in theories promoted by the obscure sovereign citizen movement.

The sovereign citizen movement is a highly-fragmented grouping of Americans who believe taxes, US currency, and even the US government to be illegitimate.

A minority of them believe that laws do not apply to them at all, resulting in the FBI designating some members as "domestic terrorists" and "anti-government extremists."

A central tenet of the movement is that the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, converted "sovereign citizens" into "federal citizens."

This belief also goes so far as to dismiss the validity of any presidency after 1868, making Ulysses S. Grant the last valid president.

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Why March 4?

Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.

It was introduced to shorten the "lame duck" period between elections and the start of new administrations.

Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment, they do not view this date change as legitimate.

QAnon followers, who failed to see Trump inaugurated in January, have recycled the argument and reinvented the next legitimate inauguration date.

They say that on March 4, 2021, Trump will succeed the last legitimate president, Grant, to become the 19th president

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: fake; nutjobs; psyops; q; qanon; qtards; tinfoil
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To: beef
The next thing we hear will when whoever was behind it reveals themselves.

If the real Q reveals himself, the Q followers will go out of their way to debunk him as a fraud.......

They need that unknown shadow figure to remain anonymous to justify their belief in him......

41 posted on 02/28/2021 6:22:41 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: RandFan
You can find some of these "trust the plan" die-hards over on the quodverum forum.

I pop over there a couple times a week and they are still basically insisting that Trump is still in control of the military and biding his time (pardon the semi-pun) for his triumphant return to office. You will read things like how Trump engineered the Syria strikes to embarrass Biden and turn his base against him. You will read how U.S. Navy ships are positioned off the coast of Florida, forming a protective cordon around Trump at Mar-A-Lago.

Much hay is being made of the fact that the Constitution requires the president to address the nation during January of February (State of the Union) but only Trump is actually doing that (today, Feb 28).

Interesting reading for those who like Tom Clancy type novels (guilty as charged). But at some point, we are all going to have to deal with the reality of the situation. I don't want to ridicule these people because by and large, they are patriotic Americans who just can't bring themselves to believe that our great nation can allow a presidential election to be stolen (and that it certainly was) and that a so-called pandemic can reduce much of America to a giant flock of bleating sheep holed up at home, scared to go outside, masking themselves when they do, and waiting for their puny gub'mint "relief" checks and their vaccines.

It's a sad state that America is in and I can't blame some people for clinging to a glimmer of hope that the calvary is going to ride to the rescue and give this bad movie a happy ending.

But it's up to us to fix things. Trump did all he could in the time he had but he's just one man. It's up to us to rip those masks off, get back to normal business and start living our lives again. It's up to us to primary the RINOS and turn the GOP into a true MAGA party. It's up to us to reform the election system so that a presidential election is never allowed to be stolen again. It's up to us to form our own social media platforms from which we can organize without fear of being "de-platformed" by the media and Deep State oligarchs.

We are going to have to fight to regain our nation and our freedoms. Sitting on our hands waiting for a very unrealistic scenario to play out is not going to get it done. Trump is not going to come back to the White House anytime soon and certainly not sooner than January 20, 2025. Until then, we have some work to do.

42 posted on 02/28/2021 6:26:35 AM PST by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What does LARP stand for? ... old man asking


43 posted on 02/28/2021 6:30:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SamAdams76

actually non of this is important unless we get a bulletproof voting system into place.


44 posted on 02/28/2021 6:32:52 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: RandFan

“Trust Sessions”.
“Trust Huber”
“Trust Durham”.

All of it is utter nonsense.
And Qbots are nuts.


45 posted on 02/28/2021 6:33:23 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers.)
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To: Chickensoup

Agreed, and I stated that in my post as well.


46 posted on 02/28/2021 6:33:49 AM PST by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

QAnon didn’t energize Trump supporters—it titillated a few crackpots who latched onto this nonsense immediately. In fact, QAnon worked against Trump at every step.


47 posted on 02/28/2021 6:38:05 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: RandFan

Similar to racist hoax stories, we now have the MSM pushing Qanon hoax stories. Why? Because there aren’t enough real Qanon stories to the MSM to use as a constant bludgeon on conservatives and to push the narrative the election was all on the up and up, and anyone who says otherwise is a kook.


48 posted on 02/28/2021 6:38:47 AM PST by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
And if Q is simply a LARP, why is the left and its friends so energized to discredit Q?

And if Q is simply a LARP, why is the left and its fellow travelers at Free Republic so energized to discredit Q?

Fixed it for you.

49 posted on 02/28/2021 6:41:25 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Joe Biden: The best president Chinese money can buy.)
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To: MHGinTN

What does LARP stand for? ... old man asking

Live Action Role Playing. Effectively an actor, usually hired, to pretend to be someone, but instead of playing in a movie or theater, they’re inserted into real-life events. For instance the majority of the provocateurs for the Capital riots were very likely payed to pretend to be conservatives, but with the intent of creating an altercation.


50 posted on 02/28/2021 6:42:49 AM PST by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: SamAdams76

t’s up to us to reform the election system so that a presidential election is never allowed to be stolen again. It’s up to us to form our own social media platforms from which we can organize without fear of being “de-platformed” by the media and Deep State oligarchs.

__________

Yep see it now..


51 posted on 02/28/2021 6:52:24 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: RandFan

March 4th? The more reasonable date would be 4/20 !!


52 posted on 02/28/2021 6:59:00 AM PST by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: IncPen

The Q threads are ONLY for Q supporters. Telling the truth about how crazy the all look is not welcomed there.


53 posted on 02/28/2021 7:02:03 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: RandFan

People screaming fake news are obviously not aware that there are people here that have posted about this March 4th nonsense. Some people will never give it up no matter how many times it’s shown to be wrong.


54 posted on 02/28/2021 7:03:31 AM PST by Stravinsky
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To: IncPen

The Q thread is for the snowflakes that can’t handle criticism of Q.


55 posted on 02/28/2021 7:07:22 AM PST by Stravinsky
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To: SamAdams76

That’s the sanest post I’ve read around here in a long time. I had a couple of good friends who were completely taken in by the Qcrap. They were/are good people ... real patriots. And now, they’re under threat.

We’re at war, in a civil sense. We have a lot to do.


56 posted on 02/28/2021 7:09:54 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: RandFan

The root cause of the death of the republic is the media pretending to speak and write truth in “news”, and the unthinking population believing it.

17anon is merely one of their Goldsteins, which the Establishment needs to oppress.


57 posted on 02/28/2021 7:19:20 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: RandFan

Well interesting that Yahoo feels they have to write about it. They must be worried. 😏


58 posted on 02/28/2021 7:20:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dinodino; All

Hmms, I think your efforts to heap blame on those that you call crackpots may be what you believe, though I shall add the “few” you call out as crackpots number in the hundreds of thousands globally, the information gathered by digging into MSM stories and events that have been happening around you also have not only proven to be correct they have been exposed and the swamp has had to retract a great deal of the fake news they spread over the years.

As for QAnon painting the Conservatives with a bload brush of “insanity” thus making Conservatives look like they to are crackpots as well, no, You and I and every Conservative here is marked for death as has been reported by MSM and Political “reporters” Was it QAnon that were beaten up by antifay and her blm fascists? Or was it Conservatives? I do believe it was the latter.

As for your statement that QAnon fought against Our PDJT, you are wrong on so many levels, we can show the work and worth and dedication to Our President from well before day one.

Opps, nearly forgot.

Q is Q, read up about who Q is, and the Anon is in fact hundreds of thousands of Very very intelligent hard working individuals that are still working to help us rid ourselves of the Leftist Totalitarian system we now are under.

I have no issue with you , just that I do not believe your effort and statement on this topic has anything more than maybe fear that deep down you know it is All of us they are coming for, and always have.

We know this, they say this, and trying to put the blame on someone else simply does not stop them, if you voted as a republican, welcome to the lifeboat. We are all in the same boat together, and we are friendly.

Respectfully

Blessings.


59 posted on 02/28/2021 7:24:52 AM PST by wombatsrule (Gut them from inside, become https://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com/ - then new party swap ;-)))
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To: MHGinTN

LARP = Live Action Role Play

Civil War re-enactors are could be considered LARP

In the case of “Q”, they’re “Role Playing” via the internet.
Intel operatives, investigators, decoders, etc.........


60 posted on 02/28/2021 7:27:48 AM PST by David Chase
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