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Jails emptied in the pandemic. Should they stay that way?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jails-emptied-pandemic-stay-way-140050107.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink ^

Posted on 06/12/2021 7:44:06 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

It wasn’t long after Matthew Reed shoplifted a $63 set of sheets from a Target in upstate New York that the coronavirus pandemic brought the world to a standstill.

You can see where this article is going.

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KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; bailreform; dystopia; jail; newyork
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Incarceration costs. 3 million criminals times $50k per inmate comes out to $150 billion/yr. Big bucks for the prison industrial complex even if my numbers are way off. It's as effective as throwing money away in Afghanistan. One answer is deportation of all illegals, in and out of jail. It's an ounce of prevention Trump fought for and lost. We need another bad guy, someone who can get the job done in a quieter manner. Japan has no problem keeping foreigners under control but their people are different. How do we save this money without execution?
1 posted on 06/12/2021 7:44:06 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Rudy turned NY around but he couldn’t accomplish this.


2 posted on 06/12/2021 7:45:48 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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From the article:

For Reed, who said he has struggled with an addiction to crack cocaine, going to jail has meant losing his disability checks, his only source of income. Without income, he has no way to pay rent, and he fears that unless a family member can take him in, he will be homeless when he is released in September.

I have zero sympathy for this guy. He shoplifted a set of bedsheets from Target, and relies on disability money and theft to support his drug habit. He needs to be in jail.

3 posted on 06/12/2021 7:53:25 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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Maybe jail will convince him to turn his li8fe around. That being said, if we were to fill the jails/prisons up, I’d rather fill them up with hard core/violent criminals, not petty thieves.


4 posted on 06/12/2021 7:55:53 AM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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So this guy gets out and will return to jail at some time. It’s not sympathy he needs and the msm knows that. In the meantime WE pay for all this crap.


5 posted on 06/12/2021 7:56:56 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Execution isn’t appropriate for most offenses. Deportations are a good start but only if you have a way to keeping the offenders from returning. Prison is expensive but a fairly humane form of punishment though not always effective. We need to reshape the culture which glorifies the criminal and demonizes the law abiding. Good luck with that


6 posted on 06/12/2021 8:01:59 AM PDT by The Louiswu ((.....................insert tagline here.......................))
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Make the jails someplace they never ever want to be

And teach that to their 14 kids before they break laws


7 posted on 06/12/2021 8:02:05 AM PDT by digger48
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To save money I’d go to my past solution/idea. Run a steel cable down the middle of unused railroad tracks and handcuff one of their arms to it-thousands of miles of tracks out there. Give them a sleeping bag and an air horn to scare off animals. Let good people feed them along the way. They’ll appreciate humanity more. Cruel and unusual? I don’t think so.


8 posted on 06/12/2021 8:02:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Crime INCREASED in the pandemic


9 posted on 06/12/2021 8:03:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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> Incarceration costs... $50k per inmate <

I’ve read that the average criminal causes 200k worth of damage per year. I don’t know how accurate that figure is, but it is something to consider.


10 posted on 06/12/2021 8:04:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Just watched “Papillion”. Great flick showing the hardships of the French penal system. They had a place to send them. Shut down eventually. Can’t do it here and these folks have a known propensity to be UNfunctional. A long walk across the country would do them wonders both physically and spiritually.


11 posted on 06/12/2021 8:08:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Non violent drug crimes are BS. Lots of ways to plant evidence, flip witnesses. Pretty hard to turn your life around with a record. Prison is not the cure for drug abuse. Physical and psychological abuse only makes these problems worse. Harm reduction is the best approach unless you personally gain by feeding off the prison system, legal system etc.
US has highest per capital incarceration rate in the world.


12 posted on 06/12/2021 8:10:27 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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Send them to Australia


13 posted on 06/12/2021 8:12:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: dinodino

The dude needs serious help, not jail.

I get the whole “he needs to be in jail thing”

But that does not cure addicts


14 posted on 06/12/2021 8:14:00 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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I was kinda impressed with the remake of Papillion

Was just thinking of watching it again this weekend while its hot out


15 posted on 06/12/2021 8:15:23 AM PDT by digger48
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I’ll compromise: fill the jails with illegals, and put guys like him in rehab.


16 posted on 06/12/2021 8:19:03 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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If illegals harm other illegals send them both home where justice would be more appropriate.


17 posted on 06/12/2021 8:26:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Illegals need to be deported, not jailed, unless they committed a felony

Yes Rehab, real rehab designed for the patient and may require long term rehab. You can’t kick heroin in 20 days, that is why the go back to it. You need a half way house set up when done with rehab, jobs program to get them back in to the work force and community service to give back to the community.

That is way better then locking someone up in a metal cage for a few years. And it may even be cheaper and hopefully you get a functional useful person again in the workforce contributing back to the community.

It may not be 100%, sure people will slip back to their old ways, but if it saves 70% it would be a big step forward.


18 posted on 06/12/2021 8:26:51 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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From a day ago...

New York Legislature Passes Parole Reform Bill Intended To Slash Prison Population

God help NYS.

19 posted on 06/12/2021 8:30:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Sure! What the h#ll! Anything goes these days!

However, prisons are Big Business for Wisconsin, so I’ll bet ours are already at capacity, again. I don’t remember reading that Wisconsin was letting anyone out, just segregating the sick from the well.

Our Super Max accommodations for the worst of the worst are the best of the best! Y’all Come! ;)


20 posted on 06/12/2021 8:38:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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