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The Surfside Collapse. So What Happens Later With The "Still Standing Condos"?Two Obvious Scenarios.

Posted on 06/27/2021 4:07:32 PM PDT by TealsGuy17

What is likely to happen with the "Still Standing"half of the condo building is probably a no win situation for the owners. The first option is a worst case scenario. The second option is after all the debris is cleared, engineers and inspectors can look for the inevitable wear and tear in the concrete supports. But does this mean they will have to dig out the entire base of the condo, maybe even close to the bedrock? Do you think anyone would want to take part of digging that hole if it comes to that? Maybe some of you out there can contemplate what will happen with the remaining units in the months to come.


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1 posted on 06/27/2021 4:07:32 PM PDT by TealsGuy17
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Does Florida have bedrock? I thought it was sand all the way down.


2 posted on 06/27/2021 4:11:59 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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I thought mud was the bottom of a swamp.


3 posted on 06/27/2021 4:13:11 PM PDT by exnavy (grow some thick skin, i do not care for whiners)
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Difficult situation since it’s a condo. The condo association will be bankrupt. The owners of the condos probably have no recourse against a bankrupt association unless there was insurance. Doubtful that the insurance would cover anything coming out of this particular situation


4 posted on 06/27/2021 4:13:58 PM PDT by ncfool (Joe Biden USSA.. United Socialist state of aMeriKa...... 11.3.2020 - President in waiting Kama-la-la)
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First question is building code violations and construction of the building.

It reminds me of China where cheapness and cutting corners cause buildings to collapse.

It’s a form of corruption.


5 posted on 06/27/2021 4:14:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The Floridian peninsula is a porous plateau of karst limestone sitting atop bedrock known as the Florida Platform. ... The limestone is topped with sandy soils deposited as ancient beaches over millions of years as global sea levels rose and fell.


6 posted on 06/27/2021 4:14:57 PM PDT by outpostinmass2 (Y)
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The remaining condos and probably similar structures will be condemned and demolished out of obvious safety concerns.


7 posted on 06/27/2021 4:15:14 PM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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Are we a 3rd world country, like for real? We have been importing a 3rd world population for decades. Maybe the tipping point has been reached. Maybe not ... yet.


8 posted on 06/27/2021 4:15:46 PM PDT by cdcdawg (It's all so tiresome.)
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Folks in surviving units need to carefully review their insurance policies.

Best case scenario include crippling assessments and largely unmarketable units. Indeed, folks in similar buildings of that generation are likely to face a sudden decline in their net worth.


9 posted on 06/27/2021 4:16:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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so are all the owners gonna get a 700,000 check from State Farm and Geico?


10 posted on 06/27/2021 4:16:55 PM PDT by TealsGuy17
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Implosion. There’s no way to tell if the piles were damaged during the collapse of the larger portion, and there’s not a lot of HOA Board Member’s left to deal with it. In any case, the cost to the HOA would be insurmountable/ The building is a loss. Take the insurance and move on.

The more difficult question is the sister building. It will have to be well established that it is not suffering the same flaws, which largely seem to be the result of unchecks leaking, at least at this point.


11 posted on 06/27/2021 4:18:56 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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My guess is that the whole shebang will be condemned and torn down. Really, that is the only sensible thing. Whatever is built in its place will require one of the most intensive geological studies ever taken in that neighborhood.
24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” — Matthew 7:24–27


12 posted on 06/27/2021 4:19:53 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Damn it, Rush. You left us too soon. )
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They can sell their condos to Biden so he can move a bunch of illegals in.


13 posted on 06/27/2021 4:20:11 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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First question is building code violations and construction of the building.

While one can probably hire an expert to say anything, it's going to be difficult to establish construction defects in a 40 year old building. Missing steel in the concrete might do it but the way the slabs held together makes that look less likely.

14 posted on 06/27/2021 4:20:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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I imagine every one of those units will be torn down.


15 posted on 06/27/2021 4:21:06 PM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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The owners of the other units are screwed. Their home and/or investment are in the toilet. Total loss. Everyone will be homeless.


16 posted on 06/27/2021 4:21:53 PM PDT by moviefan8 (#restorethesnyderverse)
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It’s a Democrat county so maybe Biden will put enough money in his infrastructure bill to pay for the condo to be torn down and rebuilt. But he may require a certain percentage of the units to be Section 8 housing.


17 posted on 06/27/2021 4:23:13 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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When you buy a condo, you own is the air between the walls and a partial share in the building and the ground it stands on. S. What happens when the walls go away? I suppose you get an insurance settlement, but you still own a partial interest in the ground it stood on.

Then what?


18 posted on 06/27/2021 4:25:33 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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Evacuate and Demo.


19 posted on 06/27/2021 4:25:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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I’ve never owned a condo and have always recommended against it. Though part of the reason lies in the fact that I also refuse to purchase a single family dwelling in an HMA. The only “fees” I’m willing to pay are real estate taxes. And I also value simplicity.


20 posted on 06/27/2021 4:27:55 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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