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Another Case Where Everything You've Read Is Wrong: Ahmaud Arbery
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 24 Nov, 2021 | Francis Menton

Posted on 11/24/2021 3:55:57 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

Name ONE !


81 posted on 11/24/2021 9:56:18 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: marktwain

From the policeman - to issue a simple ‘no trespass’ order. NEXT!


82 posted on 11/24/2021 9:57:15 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: MtnClimber

When did they call 911?

Not til after they shot him.


83 posted on 11/24/2021 10:00:01 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Hot Tabasco

In Texas as in Georgia signs are needed for exterior property. Texas has the purple fence post law which covers trespassing of exterior property. Structures in the other hand with doors regardless of there construction status automatically are considered unlawful entry and burglary of a structure both are state jail felonies and neither require the actual taking of property to be a felony. The fact that the door or window was breached alone make it a felony. By having a barrier that must be breached it is legally implied that access is restricted and by crossing that barrier a crime has been committed unless authorised or invited by the owner or owners agent of said property. Texas also has a fleeing felon clause and force including deadly force is authorised to stop a fleeing felon in most cases. The Georgia statue was put in this article it seems they also have a fleeing felon clause. If this guy was fleeing a burglary and tried to grab the shotgun and got dusted for it then a not guilty would be my vote jerk give these two guys a medal for taking out the trash. Of course he was an aspiring rapper living with momma and he dindu nuffin enjoy your dirtnap scumbag.


84 posted on 11/24/2021 10:02:22 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Sir_Humphrey
Why didn't the retired police office immediately call 911?He should have know to do this

This is an example of how people keep putting forth an opinion based on ignorance. He did call the police, and if you had bothered to learn the facts of the case you would have known this.

But that didn't stop you from declaring these two men defending their neighborhood from a known crook "guilty" and deserving of prison.

They should get a medal for ridding the world of another crook. So should Kyle Rittenhouse.

85 posted on 11/24/2021 10:21:55 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Great post. Thank you.


86 posted on 11/24/2021 10:23:01 AM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrativel)
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To: Hot Tabasco
In many states, laws require there be a warning, either by a sign or warning by the property owner, that you aren’t allowed to be on property before you can be convicted for trespassing on the property.

Sure, because everyone knows it's reasonable to be inside someone else's house in the middle of the night on four or five occasions.

87 posted on 11/24/2021 10:23:38 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GJones2

“ He was running straight at him”
Wrong !

“when there was plenty of room to go to the side. “
Wrong !

“Then he reverses course when Travis pulls out the gun.”
Wrong !


88 posted on 11/24/2021 10:25:12 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: KobraKai
I am curious how there is footage of Arberry at the construction site walking around on multiple dates, but apparently no footage of him caught red handed actually stealing something. How can that be?

My recollection, from looking at this case a long time ago when it was first making the news, is that the $2,500.00 worth of fishing equipment stolen from inside the house was before the owner installed cameras, and is in fact the reason why he installed cameras.

There were other thefts in the neighborhood, but nobody had cameras on recording it.

89 posted on 11/24/2021 10:26:50 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Brian Griffin
No stolen stuff or unexplained funds have been found on the dead guy’s property.

His brother is a crook too. Maybe he stole his siblings loot and sold it?

Of course it makes sense that Arbery would have hung on to $2,500.00 worth of fishing equipment. He might want to go fishing after his jogging.

90 posted on 11/24/2021 10:29:10 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EEGator
I think, they think they did nothing wrong.

I think they did nothing wrong too. So did the police, and the first several District Attorneys that looked at this case.

It wasn't until the national lying service made them into Emmanual Goldberg that the GBI suddenly saw a pressing need to make them into scapegoats.

91 posted on 11/24/2021 10:31:16 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GJones2
The question is not whether he ever stole anything, though. He may very well have not. And it’s not whether he deserved to be killed simply because of a legitimate suspicion of, at least, trespassing and possibly theft. Of course a killing would be justified for that, and that’s not why he was killed. If so, he’d have been killed earlier. He was killed because he chose to attack McMichael.

Excellent summation.

92 posted on 11/24/2021 10:34:04 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fury
And it is for reasons such as this that the Juries are a crapshoot.

Crook gets shot for violently attacking man with a shotgun, and you want to convict the guy who fought back against the crook.

93 posted on 11/24/2021 10:36:44 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Crook gets shot for violently attacking man with a shotgun, and you want to convict the guy who fought back against the crook.

Yep, based on the testimony I saw and also read. Sorry if that triggers you.

94 posted on 11/24/2021 10:37:54 AM PST by Fury
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To: ctdonath2
The cases are incomparable. Aubrey was no innocent, and the others insisted on escalation, as they expected compliance, until he saw no other way out.

I've seen this claim made several times. I think what you means is "saw no way out short of getting arrested by the police."

In fact, there was one option that would have allowed him to do that and which was less dangerous than what he did. He could have simply kept running. Clearly the fat McMichaels couldn't have stopped him short of shooting him, and I think it is highly unlikely they would shoot him in the back.

I have now come to realize what motivated Arbery wasn't fear, it was anger. He lived a thug life, and if you had any knowledge of this mindset, you know these people aren't going to let anyone "punk" them.

The McMichaels were trying to "punk" him, and he wasn't going to take it.

If you doubt me on this, look at the two videos of him interacting with police during his shoplifting confrontation and that confrontation in the park. Arbery is belligerent and just daring the officers to start some sh*t with him.

One officer said he was going to use his taser on Arbery, but it malfunctioned.

Arbery wasn't cornered, he decided to fight because he was a thug, and that's what a thug would do.

95 posted on 11/24/2021 10:43:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Apparently the jury thinks you're full of crap too...

GUILTY!

96 posted on 11/24/2021 10:45:11 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My favorite word is Tweezer)
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To: MtnClimber

This witness disagrees !

“Did not chase…”

“ 1:59 a.m.: Minshew says Bryan told him he was working on his porch when he saw a Black man run by and a white truck following him. Bryan said he didn’t recognize the “Black guy” or the men in the truck, Minshew says.”


97 posted on 11/24/2021 10:49:11 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yup !

“ Breaking: All 3 men found guilty in death of Ahmaud Arbery trial

After nearly two days of deliberation, jurors have decided the fates of three men accused in the death of Ahmaud Arbery.
Author: First Coast News Staff
Published: 1:46 PM EST November 24, 2021
Updated: 1:49 PM EST November 24, 2021
BRUNSWICK, Ga. — After a day and a half, jurors returned their verdicts in the trial stemming from the February 2020 death of 25-year-old Ahmaud Arbery.
Travis McMichael, his father Gregory McMichael and William “Roddie” Bryan, were all charged with murder in Arbery’s death.
Each faced nine felony counts carrying potential penalties of anywhere from one year in prison to life behind bars.
VERDICTS:
Travis McMichael

Count 1: Found guilty of malice murder
Count 2: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 3: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 4: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 5: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 6: Found guilty of aggravated assault
Count 8: Found guilty of false imprisonment
Count 9: Found guilty criminal attempt to commit a felony
Gregory McMichael

Count 1: Found not guilty of malice murder
Count 2: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 3: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 4: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 5: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 6: Found guilty of aggravated assault
Cpount 8: Found guilty of false imprisonment
Count 9: Found guilty criminal attempt to commit a felony
William “Roddie” Bryan

Count 1: Found not guilty of malice murder
Count 2: Found not guilty of felony murder
Count 3: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 4: Found guilty of felony murder
Count 5: Found guity of felony murder
Count 6: Found not guilty of aggravated assault
Cpount 8: Found not guilty of false imprisonment
Count 9: Found guilty of criminal attempt to commit a felony”


98 posted on 11/24/2021 10:51:04 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Mr Rogers
But the men who pursued and killed him are scum who give those of us who CCW bad names.

You have made up your mind that they are "scum" because you were brainwashed with media lies about two racist inbred hillbilly rednecks murdering an innocent black man for being in their neighborhood.

You have embraced that lie, and it has colored everything you have thought about it since.

This is why the media is so effective at rigging elections. They spread lies and people swallow them, and then regurgitate the media lies to other people.

They tried to say Kavanaugh was a rapist, and that failed, only because he was the darling of so many establishment republicans. They said Judge Roy Moore was a rapist of minors, and that worked because so many of the establishment Republicans hated Moore anyways.

The news lying system is the greatest threat to this nation, and it has even brainwashed people like you.

99 posted on 11/24/2021 10:51:21 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Agreed !

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/crime/ahmaud-arbery/breaking-verdict-reached-in-death-of-ahmaud-arbery-trial/77-941169ab-5b55-408d-a94e-5e295d6b43fd


100 posted on 11/24/2021 10:51:52 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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