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How much Gold did the Romans have - and where is it now?
YouTube ^ | December 7, 2022 | toldinstone

Posted on 12/08/2021 10:07:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

Good video. To spoil the conclusion, only a tiny amount of the old in circulation dates to ancient times. The vast majority of it has been mined since 1950.

That’s one reason I don’t support a gold standard. Too much instability. One big discovery, or some clever person finds a more efficient way to mine and all of a sudden the supply of gold doubles and the price collapses.


21 posted on 12/08/2021 10:37:30 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: SaxxonWoods
As the toldinstone guy noted, two-thirds of all the gold ever mined has happened since about mid-20th century, and about half of it since I was born. Once a gold-laden asteroid is found and processed, gold will be nearly as cheap as aluminum.

22 posted on 12/08/2021 10:42:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Renfrew

Well put.


23 posted on 12/08/2021 10:44:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Leaning Right

:^) Lately I’ve watched a few Bond pictures, I think Goldfinger is next.


24 posted on 12/08/2021 10:45:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Spanish landscape after Roman hydraulic mining for gold
25 posted on 12/08/2021 10:47:27 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Free Republic has gone to hell is a Covid handbasket)
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To: SunkenCiv
Not sure where it went, but here is where a lot of it cam from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_M%C3%A9dulas

When the Eastern Roman Emperor Anastasius died in 518, he left 23,000,000 gold solidi (320,000 pounds of gold or 420 long tons) in the treasury.

26 posted on 12/08/2021 10:52:49 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: bert

Yup, if it weren’t for some plagues, and self-defeating internal struggles, the Roman Empire would have lasted much longer. As it is, it didn’t finally come down until 1453, a mere 39 years before Columbus sailed.


27 posted on 12/08/2021 10:53:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“That’s the cool thing about gold, unless it’s shot into space every iota of it is still here somewhere. Some of it is found daily.”

Except for the gold we had created.


28 posted on 12/08/2021 10:54:43 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: SunkenCiv

It wasn’t me.


29 posted on 12/08/2021 11:06:06 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

During WW II my dad and others, with Patton’s Third Army found a lot of gold in a bank vault. Unlike the Clint Eastwood movie, they were forced to give it back.

Now what ever happened to all that Aztec Gold the Spanish, in 1936-1939, sent to Russia for safekeeping.....It also disappeared.


30 posted on 12/08/2021 11:08:42 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT of Facebook Jail! But for how long?)
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To: Renfrew

Yeah and if you ever look at how many ounces of gold have been mined and divide it over the number of people on the planet, it comes out to a fraction of an ounce per person.

We’ll have to have really really small coins.

And since mining won’t keep up with population growth or the supply of goods, a gold standard is a certain recipe for constant deflation, except when major new finds occur.

And we’ll all need test kits to see if the coins are fake or plated instead of real gold.


31 posted on 12/08/2021 11:11:34 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Leaning Right

Goldfinger? Or GoldMember? Maybe Goldfarb? Or Dr Goldfoot?(Watch out for the Girl Bombs!)


32 posted on 12/08/2021 11:12:42 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT of Facebook Jail! But for how long?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I know Russia is the first place I think of when it comes to keeping gold safe. They’ll make it disappear.


33 posted on 12/08/2021 11:13:51 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

From years ago this nice ditty.

“Gold is where you find it, but you always find Silver, under the Lone Ranger.”


34 posted on 12/08/2021 11:14:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT of Facebook Jail! But for how long?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Marcus Crassus had a belly full.


35 posted on 12/08/2021 11:16:05 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: DannyTN

If I remember my history, one of the Roman Emperors needed gold, and had none, so he made brass coins and plated them with silver. It caused a high inflation rate in ancient Rome.
Much like our “clad” coins LBJ foisted off on us back in 1965.


36 posted on 12/08/2021 11:22:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT of Facebook Jail! But for how long?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oak Island


37 posted on 12/08/2021 11:56:26 AM PST by meridenite
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To: SunkenCiv

The Romans forced the Carthaginians to pay tribute in talents of gold [ tons and tons of it]. When Carthage was destroyed the Romans went looking for the Carthaginian treasure. Nothing was found. Subsequent Roman emperors also went to Carthage, dug it up looking for the Carthaginian gold. Nothing. The Carthaginian fleet held off the Roman fleet whilst the Carthage elites, Elders and rear guard fled off with the treasure. The Carthaginians got their gold in African mines before the Romans were even born. The Carthaginians colonized the Gold Coast of Africa with 30,000 people and other places in Africa for 200 years before the Romans even were born. The Carthaginians fled westward away from the Romans with their treasure. The Iroquois have tales and legends of a bearded people who came to America, founded some ciies, had a battle. The Iroquois had no use for the gold so they just left it there. When the Dutch came to the Hudson River, they started killing the Lower Hudson River Indians for their red gold bracelets etc. [Cf. Henry Hudson`s sailor`s account.] they were wearing. When the Iroquois along the Mohawk River heard about this, they picked up all the gold and hid it in a cave. Some of The Carthaginians` gold was in the form of coins, probably, as their silver coins show an elephant on one side. Not one gold coin from Carthage that has an elephant on it has ever been found anywhere in the world, except one. It is pure gold, assayed in New York City in 1950` or later ?? It was was found in a cave in the mountains by a 2 Mohawk boys who knew where the gold cave was. They brought their white boy friend to the gold cave in 1840. The coin is still in a museum and can be seen today. It was handed down from the great grandfather. I heard stories of this “picking up the gold and hiding it in a cave coz the white man would kill you just to get the gold” story from my grandfather in my family oral tradition handed down since the 1850`s. I have a color pic photo of the elephant coin...It`s in my book...The Carthaginians even made it to England.


38 posted on 12/08/2021 12:25:22 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do we take this information with a grain of sand or a pound of salt;)


39 posted on 12/08/2021 1:06:01 PM PST by Jumper
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To: bunkerhill7

Queen Dido originally fled Tyre with the Phoenician treasure in 813 BC to escape from her brother Pygmalion who had killed her husband, the King of Tyre. She went thence to Cyprus and on to found Carthage...so it is a double treasure trove plus probably silver from Carthaginan mines in Spain......Silver is also hidden in a cave only 3 miles from the gold cave, but buried by a landslide in 1953; silver cave was found and attested to by an old Revolutionary War soldier`s account/diary told in 1797 before the Indian wars started in the 1800`s. Silver cave/Mine and silver was seen in 1953 by my friend before it was covered by the landslide..The silver was in bars, not coins. Some silver bars were recovered by the locals here just before the landslide.. Another 2 silver caves/mines were found one mile east & north resp., of the gold cave by a local historian in the late 1800`s. Another 2 silver caves were discovered in 1942, seven miles south of the gold cave in 1942 by a local historian.


40 posted on 12/08/2021 1:09:30 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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