Posted on 03/21/2022 1:53:25 PM PDT by Beave Meister
It has been true for years: Mile for mile, it’s cheaper — generally much cheaper — to recharge an electric vehicle than it is to refuel one with an internal-combustion engine.
That has been a key selling point for Tesla and other EV makers, particularly in times when gas prices have soared, such as now. But this time there’s a wrinkle: While gas prices have indeed soared in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, so have electricity prices — particularly in some parts of the U.S. that have been big markets for Tesla’s EVs.
That raises a question: Is it still true that it’s much cheaper to “refuel” an EV? The charts below, which show how much the cost to add 100 miles of range to the average EV or internal-combustion vehicle has changed in different markets over time, help us find the answer.
The first chart, using nationwide figures, provides a baseline. The others use data specific to Boston and San Francisco, two markets where EVs are popular — and where electricity tends to be more expensive than the national average.
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EVs are cheaper per mile. Cost depends on lots of factors, a high demand fast charger may cost far more than home overnight power on a dedicated line.
The article doesn’t “prove them wrong”, though it is a rather poor presentation of a complex subject.
Probably half to a third of what it will be when the fuel price spike works it way through the rate-setting process.
“What happens when everybody has an EV, supposedly, and there isn’t enough electricity to supply these vehicles?”
When Ford had his Model-T’s rolling off the assembly line there was ZERO service stations.
While it may be cheaper to charge vs gas, you also need to consider the initial cost to purchase a car. While I don’t know the cost of all the electric cars, the cheapest of Tesla 3 model is $57K for long range. You can purchase a descent car for what? $30k-$35K? How long in years in gas saving would it take to make up the $20k-25K difference? Just something to ponder.
I live in Hawaii. Electricity is VERY expensive here.
I figured out that a $6 per gallon is the crossover point purely based on Joules per mile.
So at present Gas is cheaper.
The “replace EV battery” canard is obsolete. The battery should outlast the car.
san diego highest electricity rates in usa
“Not to mention batteries last about 8 -10 years, while losing efficiency. Replacement cost at today’s prices are between $5000 - $20000 each.”
Monthly Myth: Your EV battery must be replaced in 5 to 10 years
https://www.myeva.org/blog/monthly-myth-your-battery-must-be-replaced-in-5-to-10-years
Now, factor in the cost of the EV and battery replacement evert 5-8 years. Then, calculate the time to make that cross country trip youâÂÂre planning, stopping every 200 miles to charge up for the nightâ¦
Almost certainly cities, counties, and states will all likely charge some environmental fee to dispose of an electric battery or electric vehicle. It is currently done with tires and I assume the environmental battery/car disposal cost will be very high.
Another ugly possibility is EV manufacturers may discontinue making replacement batteries for your older EV so your car becomes worthless without a replacement battery available.
There is currently no such thing as a “standard” EV battery. Each model of vehicle has a unique battery pack.
This would be like finding a gas station that sells a specific gasoline that is uniquely required for your model of car.
every EV owner will need to buy one of these for a quarter of a million bucks
“I figured out that a $6 per gallon is the crossover point purely based on Joules per mile.”
Calcs, please.
Another EV advantage is the lack of complexity and reciprocating parts. A well designed electric motor runs a loooong time. The entire car might rust away with the motor still as good as new.
What is the cost during brown and black outs like you have in CA?
As more EVs hit the road, gasoline prices will get lower.
So, I’m all for people buying EVs. They are the best cars for some applications, especially urban driving where regenerative braking helps their range.
If I had free roof-filled solar panels and a Tesla power wall to charge it up, it’d still cost around 50K for a used ‘21 plain-Jane model 3. But I’d definitely want a free solar powered power wall. Out of my pocket, those panels and power wall would cost around 60K more, or $110 all together.
Math may be a little off, but not by much. Teslas are rich-man toys.
If 24 hour restaurants (Dennys, Perkins, IHOP, etc) were smart, they’d install fast chargers and offer incentives (free coffee with meal purchase) for charging customers to come in a enjoy a sit down meal.
Yeah. And wouldn’t they be gorgeous to have in your yard, even scaled down? Great for Arizona and such, but in much of the country solar is not cost effective.
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