Posted on 06/07/2022 11:00:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Bullshit.
I know from personal experience that this drivel is nonsense, and your statement is pure BS.
Consider this. The homeless that refuse offers of free housing and a path to normality aren't refusing due to not being able to pass a drug test due to Marijuana, they refuse due to not being able to pass a drug test due to Cocaine, Crystal Methamphetamine, Heroin, Opiod abuse, etc.
I have homeless around here too in Southern California. Your statement about homeless is not credible concerning Marijuana “abuse”. It's legal here, so at this point your argument falls apart, IMO.
—”Oh some at FR will be unhappy with this data”
And that has become apparent.
So much for it making you mellow.
Fifty years ago, the evidence against marijuana was mostly based on anecdote and experience. Since then, decades of rigorous, well-scrutinized medical and scientific research around the world has established that marijuana has a wide range of ill effects and limited benefit.
In the aggregate, the homelessness problem is a combination of mental health, economic distress, and drug abuse -- including marijuana. The policy problem is that the rights revolution of the 1960s makes it difficult to commit even the obviously mentally ill to confinement and compulsory treatment. Spending on foreign aid has nothing to do with that.
The point that I especially urge you to investigate for yourself is that there is compelling evidence that in susceptible individuals, marijuana triggers and promotes mental illness, which is sometimes expressed violently. If so, then how would you address the risk to the public?
Within a few months though, a year at the most, she is off her meds, back on marijuana, and living homeless. She then ends up hospitalized again after being robbed and beaten or overdosing or becoming too erratic even for the streets. That provides a chance to get her detoxed and back on treatment for her mental issues.
When my cousin is homeless, she intermittently falls out of telephone contact with her mother, so her two brothers then have to check the homeless encampments and with the cops and the hospitals to find her. Her brothers absolutely hate marijuana for its effects on their sister and for its prevalence in the homeless camps.
For my cousin, marijuana unleashes a desire for the chaos, spontaneity, friendships, and drugs that define modern homelessness. Her mother lives in dread of a day when the police may call her as next of kin to arrange for a funeral for her bright, funny, kind daughter whose life was wrecked by marijuana and mental illness.
Based on direct, lived experience, there is no convincing my cousin's family that marijuana is harmless because for my cousin, that is plainly untrue. And that also holds for many millions of others. Again, I urge you to investigate and read the medical and scientific literature.
My first cousin started with pot in the early 80’s. I know the weed proselytizers will scream it’s not a gateway drug but I witnessed his descent into the depths addiction and along the way be pulled his niece down with him. He’s in his early fifties and after numerous attempts seems to have finally broken the addiction cycle but pissed his life away all for that high. His niece is still an addict of anything she can get her hands on.
My wife is currently reading a book that cites numerous studies showing that weed will result in paranoia and violence eventually. Not to mention the coming disaster for lung damage. I suspect the medical use for weed is oversold as a way to get it legalized, the pot heads want their weed and the state wants the tax dollars. My son is a peace officer and see’s very few alcohol DUI’s anymore but lots of drug, mainly weed or meth DUI’s. I wonder how the medically approved weed DUI deaths are going to be explained away. With booze you have MADD, with weed are we going to eventually get MAMD.
In Oklahoma, you can get a “prescription” from a “doctor” for weed from any one of the dispensaries on most every corner. If someone gets into an accident that causes bodily harm due to the person being DUI, does the “doctor” have any legal liability?
If ya think these young kids are slaughtering classrooms full of kids because they have a buzz on pot, you and your sources are full of s**t. No offense though.
Read this carefully; Anyone who’d do what the mental case in Uvalde did, was very disturbed before they ever touched pot. You’d have to be really stupid or have your own personal agenda not to agree.
Once again, the ugly truth is we’re not caring for our own people who clearly have mental issues. Homeless mental cases are everywhere. We all know the story. What a disgrace!
A big reason for this is we’re to damn busy sending billions out in foreign aid, Ukraine, all them. Hundreds of billions! Enough to build and staff dozens of mental hospitals/facilities from coast to coast.
Btw, after the COVID 19 epic charade, I seen and heard the enought from the, “Medical experts” to last me a lifetime. They made complete asses out of themselves.
Btw, after the COVID 19 epic charade, I seen and heard the enough from the, “Medical experts” to last me a lifetime. They made complete asses out of themselves.
And these were the alleged, “Top experts”!
I’m sorry to hear that about your cousin.
Fortunately, not everyone is “programmed” the same, and the overwhelming majority of those who indulge in Marijuana, legally nowadays, do not experience any significant detrimental effects. Not everyone reacts the same, of course.
My point is simple. I believe you are misguided applying your cousins issues to the population in general. I take that from empirical evidence witnessed personally over 4 decades. Around %50 of adult Americans admit trying it. I suspect that number should be significantly higher.
The main reason Marijuana has been moving towards legality everywhere in this country is due to the fact that governments realized it was being consumed on a massive scale they could not stop, people were not flipping out “Reefer Madness” style, and they were missing out on an enormous amount of potential taxes.
From what I’ve observed in my life, Alcohol is far more destructive to individuals than Marijuana.
Never heard so much bulls**t in all my life.
Stoners tend to be mellow.
Drunks. They’re a whole different story.
Yup.
Had some loud mouth drunk in the ER tonight.
Young guy of about 25.
Wouldn’t shut up, foul mouthed cursing out the nurses with “F you bitches’’, “M’fers’’.
They finally put him in four point restraints.
Get a lot of meth heads too.
Mostly fat ugly broads with no teeth and REALLY foul mouths.
Never a good idea to be rude to the people trying to save your life. Pot smokers, none that I know have ever been rude or violent. Infact the world might be nicer if more people did.
I believe that if you take an hour or two and make an honest and open-minded reading of the evidence, you will find that the case for a causative link between marijuana and mental illness and violent criminal behavior is stronger than you now think. And even if the results are not as expected, time spent thinking for yourself and learning new evidence on a policy issue that matters to you is rarely wasted. Even if your views in the end are unchanged, you will at least be better equipped to explain and defend them.
For a far larger set of the population, limited marijuana use has risks but is relatively harmless. And, for many, marijuana has bona fide benefits for the relief of pain and anxiety.
Contrary to the expectations of say, five years ago, the absurdly well-funded movement for marijuana legalization seems to have stalled. A relative handful of states have more or less full legalization, while in others, state sanctioned and regulated medical dispensaries seem to mark the limit of legalization.
Stop with your medical experts BS..They’re FOS...
Just like all the experts who lied and got it wrong about COVID and the vaccinations...No?
And all the political “Experts”? They had Trump losing to Clinton. All wrong! Experts my azz.
I don’t need people trying to save my life thank you. By the grace of God and Alcoholics Anonymous my life has been just fine for the last 32 years.
It might be a more peaceful world if people minded their own
business.
Mine occupies me constantly.
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