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CNN's Don Lemon: "More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock." Politifact rating: True
Politifact ^ | July 29, 2013 | Louis Jacobson

Posted on 08/16/2022 2:54:48 PM PDT by grundle

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To: angry elephant

It started before LBJ’s Great Society. I had a liberal maiden aunt who had been in the state legislature. She had a black servant and companion who told her in the 1950s that the state’s support for unwed mothers was destroying the institution of marriage in her community. A young woman who was unhappy in her family could get pregnant, have her own apartment, and a livable income.


61 posted on 08/16/2022 4:41:33 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: grundle
APOLOGIZE!
62 posted on 08/16/2022 4:48:59 PM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: waterhill

Was he the man who committed suicide with a bolt action rifle shooting himself in the back several times?


63 posted on 08/16/2022 4:49:45 PM PDT by robowombat (Orth, all y aa)
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To: Pontiac

LBJ used to unzip his drawers and wave his enormous willy at Jackie O! - that would set her all a giggle


64 posted on 08/16/2022 4:51:24 PM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: Zuriel

Thanks for the info. I’ll keep an ear open.


65 posted on 08/16/2022 4:52:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: grundle

Interesting, Don Lemon reported a fact!


66 posted on 08/16/2022 4:58:00 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Ramped up with the so called great society. LBJ got on thing right. He’d had those ****+++ voting democrat for years.


67 posted on 08/16/2022 5:14:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Veto!

They’re accused of acting white.


68 posted on 08/16/2022 5:19:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grundle
Nothing new here. As posted before,

[1] Data from U.S. Census reports reveal that between 1880-1960, married households consisting of two-parent homes were the most widespread form of African-American family structures. Although the most popular, married households decreased over this time period. Single-parent homes, on the other hand, remained relatively stable until 1960; when they rose dramatically. A study of 1880 family structures in Philadelphia, showed that three-quarters of Black families were nuclear families, composed of two parents and children. In New York City in 1925, 85% of kin-related Black households had two parents. In 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage. In 2011, 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers. In 2015, 77% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure

[2] From 1980 thru 2008 93% of black victims were killed by blacks. (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf)

[3] By almost every measure African Americans socioeconomic conditions were better in 1970 than in 1940....Despite these economic and social advances black crime began to escalate markedly in the late 1960s and continued to play a major role in the multi-decade crime boom that followed. (https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2018-African-American-Crime-Rates.pdf)

[4] homicide-victimization rates for black men were 3.9 times the national average and that 52 percent of all known homicide victims were black (2017 data)In 2018, where the homicide victim was black, the suspected killer also was 88 percent of the time. From 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of black victims were killed by other African Americans...From 2000 to 2015, the mean African-American homicide-victimization rate, adjusted for age, was 20.1 per 100,000. That’s more than three times the Hispanic rate of 6.4 (despite disadvantages comparable to those of blacks) and over seven times the average white rate, 2.7. Moreover, as already noted, from 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of the killers of black murder victims were other African Americans. (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/)

Which is a result of culture, not color. . Which a non-PC Berkeley study published in 2007 of the attitude and treatment of recent African immigrants by American blacks serves to illustrate this (FR thread). Excerpt:

"Growing up in Africa . . ., the culture of White racism and prejudice was not part of the African upbringing . . . . [w]e were aware of the history of slavery but, in all cases, we were wil ling to forget and forgive. It never occurred to us that we would be the targets of hate simply because of the color of our skin. Interestingly, ou r Black and brown skins did not open the doors wide for us in the African American community either. We were, and remain to many African Americans, outsiders or beneficiaries of their struggle against a racist society. If we are too successful and live in a nice White neighborhood, then we are accused of betraying our race, being "Black Bourgeois" and wanting to be White. To White neighbors, we are safe because we are Blacks from Africa . . ., not from the South or Brooklyn and, to their stereotypical way of thinking, we do not do drugs or alcohol or have big late night parties."

Just as alcohol abuse can be expected among certain cultures (in this case being much higher among non-black,non-Hispanics) then so behavioral issues can be, and which not must be unreasonably discounted in order to blame disciplinary actions all on racism. Rather, the higher rates of violence in American black culture is related to the decline of the traditional black family which liberal policies fostered.

69 posted on 08/16/2022 5:21:05 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: grundle
Lemon did overreach somewhat when he went on to say that the 72 percent "out of wedlock" figure "means absent fathers." The 72 percent figure refers to children who are born to women who are not married; it would, however, include unmarried couples in which the father is present. That said, the rate of African-American children living in single-parent homes is almost as high as the rate for non-marital births.

Unproven. As likely common on any welfare culture, mothers who have resident fornicators tell the welfare agency they are single in order to collect more benefits.

70 posted on 08/16/2022 5:24:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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Oh look, DNC talking points arriving at the same time from two different networks. How surprising.

71 posted on 08/16/2022 5:56:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: grundle

And Patrick Daniel Monyihan worked with Lyndon Johnson to get the civil rights bills known as the “Great Society” passed in the mid-1960’s because the out-of-wedlock rate among blacks was 25% and he thought that was unacceptable. Good work, Patrick!


72 posted on 08/16/2022 6:40:54 PM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: caww

No money in it!


73 posted on 08/16/2022 7:04:25 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Tai_Chung

Precisely. It’s antithetical to condemn abortion and then castigate mothers who deliver their babies at term.


74 posted on 08/16/2022 8:58:02 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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To: grundle

All according to plan. Government needs to control the population, so becoming the grand baby-daddy; government can destroy families. Don’t need a man when daddy government got you covered.


75 posted on 08/16/2022 10:09:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: philman_36

The guys encourage this as I see it. Just shack up rather than marry.


76 posted on 08/16/2022 10:13:47 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: RummyChick
I think whitey is to blame, viz. Lyndon Johnson. He told black women if they had children out of wedlock, he would pay them ..... forever.

What did we expect to happen? And white liberals were all on board with that.

Yeah, I blame "whitey", to a large degree.

77 posted on 08/17/2022 3:36:03 AM PDT by LouAvul (Complacency is the enemy of courage.)
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