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Ukraine Russia War Status update - Col Doug Macgregor The whole thing is on the verge of collapse
Judging Freedom ^ | November 28, 2022 | Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 12/03/2022 5:54:45 AM PST by Cathi

MacGregor: Up until this time at night we have had freezing but during the day it has gone back up to 40 even 50 degrees. It has to drop below freezing and stay that way for at least two weeks. So if it is now below freezing and stays that way you can do the math. Your looking for something happening no earlier than the 10th; probably no later than the 19th of December. And you're talking about concentrations of Russian troops all the way around the country. We've accounted now formally, these are people who sit in front of your monitors that control satellites, and the intelligence community says it has accounted for 540,000 Russian troops.

And of that 540,000 we are talking about 5,000 armored fighting vehicles of which at least 1,500 are tanks, probably another thousand self propelled artillery, the rest infantry fighting vehicles. A thousand rockets, missiles, tactical ballistic missiles, your so called drones (unmanned attack systems.) That doesn't even begin to address the hundreds of fixed wing aircraft, hundreds of helicopters,. The helicopters will move troops obviously. There will be some ground support. Hundreds of fixed wings operating as ground support, but also bombers now. We've begun to see the use of bombers now which is something we've done for years. They're now beginning to do it and they all have precision munitions.

Judge: What you have just described must be understood and known by President Zelensky, by Ukrainian intelligence, by American intelligence, by the State Department, by the Pentagon and by the White House. What are they going to do about it?

MacGregor: Yes, well what they're trying to do is ship more equipment to the Ukrainians. The problem is the Ukrainian casualties have been horrendous; particularly over the last few months. There was an article today in the Euro News and I'm told there was another one in the New York Times describing the very, very heavy casualties. Of course the Big Lie that is always accompanied the bad new is well the Russians have taken heavy casualties, too. Nonsense, the Russians have not. That's the difference; when you are killing your enemy at a 10 to 1 ratio; which is about where it is right now in Southern Ukraine, you're not hurting at all. And the Russians aren't running out of anything. The Ukrainians are running out of everything...ammunition, spare parts, fuel, you name it. The soldiers, most of the best troops are dead or wounded and the people they are shoving forward in the defensive positions are untrained reservists. They say, well we sent 10,000 more troops to England for three weeks, you can't train a man to do much of anything in three weeks or even five weeks. You need time and time is something the Ukrainians no longer have. So the whole thing is on the verge of collapse.


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To: cranked

You are changing the subject. You made a foolish statement. I pointed it out. Stop deflecting.


21 posted on 12/03/2022 6:25:07 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

You are changing the subject. You guys made a statement. It was false.

Try again.


22 posted on 12/03/2022 6:25:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Travis McGee

https://t.me/intelslava

express.co.uk

“The Ukrainian commander of the Svoboda battalion, Petro Kuzyk, whose unit is one of those holding Bakhmut said his soldiers are staying in trenches full of corpses, fighting in extremely cold conditions and in knee-deep water against Russia’s attacks.

Asked by NV news how big the human losses are so far, he replied: “They are colossal. They don’t even count bodies.”

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The commander of the neo-Nazi Svoboda battalion, Petro Kuzik, whose unit is trying to hold Bakhmut, told Western media that the fields and forests around are littered with the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers, and they have to defend themselves in extreme cold and knee-deep in water.

“They [the Russians] sensed a weakness in our defenses because there are units that are less motivated than ours. And yesterday they slightly weakened our defenses in the area immediately around Bakhmut. Some units could not withstand this artillery onslaught and retreated.”

Asked how serious the loss of life is, he said: “They are colossal. We don’t even count the bodies.”


23 posted on 12/03/2022 6:26:00 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Vermont Lt

Confirmed: When truth hurts.


24 posted on 12/03/2022 6:26:21 AM PST by cranked
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To: Vermont Lt

So wha does that tell you about our boated defense budget? Where is the money going to come from?


25 posted on 12/03/2022 6:27:58 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
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To: Vermont Lt
--- "You are changing the subject. You guys made a statement. It was false. Try again."

An amazing tactic from a supposedly military man. Cry foul.

Your statement verbatim: "We've spent about a percent of our defense budget. It's not like we are selling our jewelry to pay for groceries."

My response verbatim: "Do not let your eyes become blurred by shiny objects. Our nation adds a trillion and more in essentially CREDIT CARD spending to the national debt each year. Currently the national debt officially tops $32,000,000,000,000. 'It's not like we are selling our jewelry to pay for groceries,' because we are spending our children's' and grandchildren's' money at this point."

No change of subject. Your subject. My response to your subject. No change. No "changing the subject."

26 posted on 12/03/2022 6:31:09 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marktwain

“Some have claimed MacGregor is in the pay of Russia. I do not know, but it appears plausible.”

About as “plausible” as ORYX and the Institute of the Study of War and the BBC, etc. being instruments of the deep state, yeah?
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One of the stated objectives of the Russian SMO was demilitarization of Ukraine.

Revelation: When the demilitarizing Ukraine comes with the added bonus of demilitarizing the US/UK/EU/NATO.

Go figure.


27 posted on 12/03/2022 6:32:05 AM PST by cranked
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To: WKUHilltopper

“ When the ground freezes “permanently”, the Russian tanks will roll.”
Your one of the first to make an intelligent comment. Yes, frozen fields mean they will not be restricted to roadways. However, Russian command officers appear to be very inept. I guess we’ll see what happens.


28 posted on 12/03/2022 6:33:32 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: cranked
MacGregor discredits himself. It's been pointed out repeatedly how his relentlessly pro-Russian opinions have been wildly wrong right from the start. Even before the war, he predicted that Russia would annihilate the U.S. military in battle, and that an invasion of Ukraine would result in the swift collapse of NATO itself.

We got pretty much the opposite.

After the war began, he said it would be over in a few days. Obviously wrong. Then, on March 4, he explained being wrong by saying the Russians had made the mistake of going too easy on Ukraine, but had corrected that and it would be over in ten days. Again, massively wrong. And he's been making incredibly pro-Russia, and wrong predictions ever since.

29 posted on 12/03/2022 6:34:38 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MCF

“Russian command officers appear to be very inept.”

KIA and casualty numbers indicate otherwise...


30 posted on 12/03/2022 6:35:27 AM PST by cranked
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“MacGregor discredits himself.”

When talking out your behind becomes a fine art in the persistent pursuit of ‘discrediting.’

Again, who has ‘discredited’ him?

You propaganda peddlers?
MI6?
CIA?
NAFO folks?
ORYX?
ISW?
You propaganda peddlers?
Der Fuhrer wannabe UrsalaIdiot?

Who?


31 posted on 12/03/2022 6:37:49 AM PST by cranked
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To: BobL

“They knew if NATO could be demilitarized, then they would be in a better position for concessions, some of which will likely go beyond Ukraine.”
_____________________

The concession beyond Ukraine which Russia wants and has always wanted is a new European Securities Agreement to replace the “rules based international order” that we put into effect (and which we make the rules for..:-) when we became the ONLY superpower.


32 posted on 12/03/2022 6:40:23 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Did Der Fuhrer wannabe UrsalaIdiot ‘discredit’ MacGregor when you dropped her truth bomb of 100K Ukies dead...you know, something MacGregor long been indicating?!?

No, what Der Fuhrer wannabe UrsalaIdiot discredited was the entire Western/US/UK/EU/NATO propaganda ridden media who has been lying to the general public for months and months......


33 posted on 12/03/2022 6:42:14 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked
Discredited by who?

Not by who, by what- the facts on the ground. MacGregor has been consistently wrong on the progress of the war since it began. Anyone who listens to or promotes that bellowing boob is either stupid or a Russian troll.
34 posted on 12/03/2022 6:42:49 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Please read #14.

There is much more at the FT link. What is posted is just a sample.


35 posted on 12/03/2022 6:42:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Apparatchik

Another peddler attempting to ‘discredit’ with “facts on the ground’.....

Yo, did Der Fuhrer wannabe UrsalaIdiot ‘discredit’ MacGregor when you dropped her truth bomb of 100K Ukies dead...you know, something MacGregor long been indicating?!?


36 posted on 12/03/2022 6:44:04 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

When the truth hurts the Main Stream Media will just remove it for you.

Von der Leyen statement about death of 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers cut from speech

Wed, November 30, 2022 at 8:36 AM

Ursula von der Leyen

Part of her speech was posted on Twitter on the morning of Nov. 30, in which she stated, in particular, that Ukraine’s losses in the war with Russia amounted to 100,000 soldiers and 20,000 civilians.

“Russia’s invasion of Ukraine brought death, destruction and untold suffering. We all remember the horrors of Bucha. It is estimated that more than 20,000 civilians and 100,000 Ukrainian military personnel have died to date. Russia must pay for its heinous crimes, including the crime of aggression against a sovereign state,” the tweet read.

The speech was also published on the website of the European Commission.

However, within a few hours, the tweet was deleted and a new one was published – with a video address, from which the claim about the deaths of 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers and 20,000 civilians had been removed.


37 posted on 12/03/2022 6:46:40 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Cathi

McGregor will have to eat his crow one day,

Will someone please tell this self-righteous bastard that his 15 minutes of fame has expired?


38 posted on 12/03/2022 6:49:38 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“I’m not the only one!”)
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To: Cathi

“rules based international order”

I agree with what you’re saying, but what the hell is a “rules based international order” ??? Is it that we get to bomb the crap out of a innocent country like Serbia, but Russia doesn’t get to defend themselves against an OBVIOUS THREAT like Ukraine joining NATO and becoming nuclear?


39 posted on 12/03/2022 6:50:24 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 18 degrees, burrr!!!)
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To: cranked

Discredited by his own failed predictions


40 posted on 12/03/2022 6:50:45 AM PST by FreshPrince
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