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America, it’s time to pay the demographic piper
The Hill ^ | January 19, 2023 | Joseph Chamie

Posted on 01/20/2023 9:31:04 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

With low fertility, higher mortality, population aging and rising illegal immigration, it’s time for America to pay the demographic piper.

The U.S. fertility rate is now well below the replacement level of about two births per woman. The country’s fertility rate in 2021 was 1.66 births per woman or less than half the peak rate of 3.7 births per woman in the late 1950s.

America’s fertility rate has been generally below the replacement level since 1971 and consistently less than the replacement level for more than a decade. Population projections do not envisage the country returning to the replacement level any time soon.

In addition, after years of gains, life expectancy in the U.S. dropped for the second year in a row in 2021.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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1 posted on 01/20/2023 9:31:04 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Immigration is the only thing that has maintained population growth.

India is outgrowing everyone.

And Life Expectancy aligned to Excess Deaths, which powerfully asserted themselves beginning 2020 in essentially perfect sync to Covid deaths.

India and Africa are the populations of the future.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 9:37:37 PM PST by Owen
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To: MinorityRepublican

Build
The
Wall


3 posted on 01/20/2023 9:38:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How about we find a way to survive without bringing people in 24 7.


4 posted on 01/20/2023 9:42:56 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: toddausauras
How about we find a way to survive without bringing people in 24 7.

We are not reproducing enough so we have to bring immigrants in (legally).

5 posted on 01/20/2023 9:46:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Owen
India and Africa are the populations of the future.

If they ever get their act together. The West and the East (Asia) will eventually figure out a way to stabilize their populations.

6 posted on 01/20/2023 9:49:17 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Or have bigger families


7 posted on 01/20/2023 9:49:48 PM PST by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Abortion

Pill

Homo agenda

Devaluing of marriage (hardly any worth while incentives in tax breaks or government spending). Big corporate employers are no different, they will pay for the transportation to an abortion clinic, but if you want fertility treatment, good luck having insurance or an employer help.

Feminism: anti-male, anti-marriage, anti-child

Public education which teaches having children will end your life, and the purpose in life is to be a productive factory worker. It is after all a product of the late industrial revolution and the goal was to create good factory workers nothing more.


The child is a financial burden, a commitment and responsibility you can’t easily shed yourself of. This child gets in the way of you sex life, career and social events. Better not to have it. So goes the logic of modern people.

These are then the people that lecture you about ethics, humanity, sustainability, social responsibility... hahaha


8 posted on 01/20/2023 9:52:35 PM PST by Red6
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To: Fai Mao
Or have bigger families

Every nation in the West is having this problem. No one wants to have kids. Too much work. Too expensive.

9 posted on 01/20/2023 9:56:20 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Owen

Why is population growth either a good thing or even necessary?

India is a craphole that all Indians want to leave. Why do you think they come here?

When the US had 100 million fewer people rents were cheap, home ownership was easy, the freeways easy to navigate and people were far happier. When did crowding become a desirable future?

The birthrate collapse is directly due to the high cost of family formation. Having eight kids was not unusual three generations ago. Then it was 4, then 3, now maybe one or none. Why?

The cost.

And then you have the twin evils: Ehrlich’s overpopulation BS and abortion. The easy way out! Why reproduce, right? Bad for the environment and socially limiting.

Better to just import the world’s excess. Best of all, they will get racial preferences for everything: schools, jobs, political spoils. Yet again another reason not to reproduce if you’re ethnic American! Your own government - you know, all the dimwitted brats who trailed you in school - made up a bunch of regulations that marginalized you in your own country in the name of “racial justice”. Translation: your kids come in last.

So why reproduce? How will you explain an insane world like that to your kids?


10 posted on 01/20/2023 9:58:35 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Owen

Since 2000, the US has added over 50 million people. Labor participation rates are around 62%. We don’t have a population problem. Importing millions of immigrants, most of whom are unskilled, is not the answer.


11 posted on 01/20/2023 10:11:58 PM PST by kabar
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To: MinorityRepublican

Millennials and Gen Z are having themselves sterilized to save the erf.


12 posted on 01/20/2023 10:19:58 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: toddausauras

All the West is in the same boat, i.e. Europe, US, Canada, Australia, Japan and S. Korea. We are all connected and even though we make fun of one another we all suffer from the same social issues.

The immigrant has become the cheap way that the shortfall in ones own birth rate can be filled with bodies that pay taxes and work in the factories. Many Western nations such as France and Germany would literally collapse within a few years without mass immigration because they do not have enough young people to sustain themselves. The tax base would shrink to the point where the system collapses.

So while the policy makers talk about curbing immigration and building walls, the truth is we are literally dependent on this to stay alive. Rather than address the social causes of a native low birth rate, we fix it on the cheap and fast with folks that culturally do not assimilate well, cause for a high crime rate, are poorly educated or fraudulent skilled labor (not really - only on a piece of paper they paid for). But it sort of works... and of course you’ll also see the culture of your nation change. It’ll become more like the places these people come from.

What do you expect?

Today if I decide to shack up with another dude and we both have high incomes, YOUR children will pay for our happy asses in our old age. YOU will pay for college, YOU will deal with the headaches, limitations on your career and personal life, and I/we will benefit from them just as you will in old age. The fact that if I choose to be childless will not really impact all these government run social programs medicare, social security your children will pay for.

There is no true incentive in having children.

In fact, in some places people are no longer even getting married. Why? Any benefit in doing such has been removed, all in the name of progressive, egalitarian, feminist, social justice nonsense. About 65% of all children born in France are out of marriage, and a large portion of folks never marry, even if they live together 20 years and have 1.36 children together.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/957229/births-out-of-wedlock-france/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-population/majority-of-french-children-born-to-unwed-mothers-idUSL1406071420080115

There is a very serious and real disease literally killing us. This is a philosophical/ideological illness and our policy makers are doing ZERO to fix it. In fact, the policies pursued by such folks as those attending Davos fuel this problem. Children = CO2, population control...

It’s at a point where all you can do is attempt to protect your immediate family from this craziness, but you can’t stop the big wheels from turning anymore. That will require some event or force greater than you or I.


13 posted on 01/20/2023 10:21:19 PM PST by Red6
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We are not reproducing enough so we have to bring immigrants in (legally)

Well my mother did her job, spit out four boys in the late boomer generation.

I was the youngest and I was born with a penis, I believe she was disappointed.

At least she didn't genitally mutilate me.

.God bless her soul

14 posted on 01/20/2023 10:22:54 PM PST by DallasBiff (Kamala is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The median age in the US is 38.5 years, 61st oldest in the world. In China it is 38.4. In Japan it is 48.6. Germany 47.8. Hong Kong 45.6. South Korea 43.2. UK 40.6. Russia 40.3. Nigeria 18.6. India 28.7. Brazil 33.2. Mexico 29.3. Canada 41.8.

There is a direct correlation between how developed a country is and the median age.


15 posted on 01/20/2023 10:38:56 PM PST by kabar
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To: MinorityRepublican
No one wants to have kids. Too much work. Too expensive.

Most importantly: no return on investment. Let working parents and their children opt out of paying 15% of their wages into the Demonrat's Socialist Security system, and instead require their children to pay 10% of their income to their parents in old age. That is essentially how the American Amish operate, and their fertility rate is around 6 per woman.

16 posted on 01/20/2023 10:41:20 PM PST by Reeses
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Let woman have high-paying careers, something will give, as many will choose that option.

Now we pay...


17 posted on 01/20/2023 10:45:45 PM PST by BobL
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To: Red6
Rather than address the social causes of a native low birth rate, we fix it on the cheap and fast with folks that culturally do not assimilate well, cause for a high crime rate, are poorly educated or fraudulent skilled labor (not really - only on a piece of paper they paid for). But it sort of works

A temporary fix. It works for most part in USA, UK and Germany.

They're having problems in France and Sweden. This does not apply to Japan because they have no immigration so their economy is already suffering.

18 posted on 01/20/2023 11:01:56 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

What do you think CRT and Whyte Supreeeeemeacy is all about?


19 posted on 01/20/2023 11:07:28 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: MinorityRepublican
One group of Americans has the highest fertility in the world. It doubles every 20 years. - Amish

https://mercatornet.com/one-group-of-americans-has-the-highest-fertility-in-the-world-it-doubles-every-20-years/77391/

20 posted on 01/20/2023 11:13:09 PM PST by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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