NOW you've done it!!
Posted on 01/31/2023 4:39:09 AM PST by MtnClimber
I bet that Owl Gore has his feathers ruffled.
But I respectfully disagree with the statement: "Even as the impossible dream of a wind/solar-powered economy collapses everywhere it is tried...". Decentralized solar (meaning the land owner or homeowner implements solar for himself) can work well if you're in a good situation for it. Especially if you don't define success as being totally dependent on it (I'm not off-grid) but as preventing you from having to buy most of the power you need for your family.
The Global Elites were always planning on achieving Net Zero on the backs of the Poor.
3 Billion people across the planet SUFFER from a lack of energy. Many have to drag home a branch or gather dried animal dung if they want to eat cooked food.
If Davos has their way, that will soon be 4 Billion.
the netzero is referring to individual liberty
I watched a video of using water reservoirs as a “battery” to be emptied in peak demand of electricity with the water driving a generator to produce electricity. In off peak times time the water would be pumped back into the reservoir. All this with a 20% loss of potential energy on each cycle. So my question is where does the 20% come from to keep this water battery cycling.
You overbuild the generation side of things.
It’s still a pipe dream for taking us to a total wind and solar future. No was are you ever going to be able to build sufficient reservoir capacity to cover for a string of cloudy and windless days.
You can run modern civilization on wind and solar.
The pumped storage is a mechanism for using electricity generated at night and off peak hours to pump water up to a resevoir. During peak hours, the water can be released back to the river where the hydroelectric generators produce electricity.
Nuclear generators can’t be throttled so pumped storage along with a nuclear plant is an ideal solution.
A good example of success are the Sequoyah Nuclear Plant, the Racoon Mountain Pumped Storage facility and the Nickajack Dam.
“It” may well be dead but the ginormous amount of money(tax dollars) “they” are willing to toss down the drain to perpetuate the lie is staggering and that will continue. Too much money to be made on this lie. Sort of like the MIL/INDUS complex making money on the yuke debacle.
The cost to homeowners to install solar is rather prohibitive for most. Not only would we have to buy all the equipment and the installation but we would be making those payments for several years. I read it is estimated to take 20-25 years for solar to actually pay for itself. If you can afford it, great! It’s like buying an EV. Couldn’t afford it and having to install a charging station is pricey.
it doesn’t matter if it isn’t obtainable, with these people it is a) their religion and b) the focus of their policy. So we will all have to live with the consequences of their religious stupidity until they are thrown out of the positions of power. Just like the reasons we have to get rid of ICE while being forced to get EVs. There is no reason we have to get rid of “fossil” fuels. CO2 is plant food and at atmospheric levels so small they cannot change the the temperature of the planet, H2O is the greatest influencer of our temperature, that and that nuclear fusion reactor a mere 93 million miles (on average) from us.
Dead algae on the ocean floor is exactly how net-zero can be achieved economically. Trace amounts of iron fertilizer in the right locations will cause very large amounts of CO2 to be consumed.
Except when the powers to be do not want nuclear power plants like say.... Germany.
I've seen a loss of 3% to 7% with charging and pulling from my home solar batteries. I have no doubt that temperature is a factor. I agree with you that a 20% loss of any energy storage is ridiculous. But as far as where that extra energy comes from, it comes from the excess energy on days you have more energy coming in than you consume. That's not a perfect solution. But as far as making this freedom loving American a little less dependent on things the government overregulates (like energy), it's working for me.
Yeah, but, don’t those rabid pearl clutching greenies look morally superior anyway?!?
“...a total wind and solar future...”
An opium pipe dream. Never going to happen.
Even if I didn’t mind my house looking like a commercial building I don’t have enough roof with southern exposure for even one solar panel. And it’s a 2,400 SF home.
Isn’t the moral superiority the whole point? Come on over, FRiend, in your electric car powered by slave labor batteries, and we’ll chat about it some more. I’ve got some cricket flour and I’ll whip us up some cookies.
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