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DeSantis supporters say that his silence is LEADERSHIP?
Youtube ^ | 3/19/23 | Middle MAGA

Posted on 03/19/2023 8:47:02 PM PDT by conservative98

DeSantis silent, Vivek speaks.

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To: jcon40

“Yep. And it’s not DeSantis’s job to have to comment on everything Trump does.”

It’s not about commenting on everything Trump does. It’s the politicization and weaponization of our government that people want addressed. We are turning into a banana republic in front of our very eyes. DeSantis may not like Trump, but Trump is a former President who’s running for re-election. If the bureaucratic state can take out politicians it doesn’t like, through weaponized government, then we no longer have a republic.

THAT’s what people want to hear our public officials discuss. And THAT’s what a leader should be talking about, because it’s one of the greatest issues of our time. Now if DeSantis really DOESN’T have future Presidential aspirations, then I suppose his silence is disappointing, but no big deal. But if he does eventually announce his candidacy, as many of us suspect he will, then his silence on the matter is a big deal, and shows a real lack of leadership on his part. A leader puts the wellbeing of the country ahead of personal animosity. And a leader gets out in front of important issues instead of hiding from them.


21 posted on 03/19/2023 9:33:28 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Dr. Sivana

I briefly taught at a prep school (also public school substitute teaching in Alameda and Contra Costa County, East Bay SF which was a horror show) when I was in grad school; even in the bad old days of the early 2000’s when Ron was teaching (I am about the same age) this was regarded as a big no-no, and was explicitly mentioned in orientation. I understand the inclination to orient towards people close to your own age and outlook but was always inappropriate and fraught with danger, and don’t think this won’t become a bigger issue should Ron become nominee (hopefully never).


22 posted on 03/19/2023 9:35:52 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: Paladin2
That said, RDS has a day or two to figure this out.

That clock has run out. Checking with handlers to decide if you stand for the rule of law and against politicizing our system of justice just means DeSantis is an empty suit.

DeSantis should do what's best for the nation and get off the stage,

23 posted on 03/19/2023 9:39:54 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: Right_in_Virginia

RDS is controlled by big donors who hate Trump. He’d be accused of biting the hand that’s feeding him if he said a word. These are not people who give a damn about principles or rule of law.


24 posted on 03/19/2023 9:51:26 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: mikegreenwell39

Wow. An impressive string of rote tropes against the most successful governor in the country. That’s really something.

But I’ll just pick one: the disloyal jackal. I voted for trump, enthusiastically, twice. I have a sincerely held view he was a man for the moment, and his moment has passed. No one running who was helped by him is morally bound not to run again if they feel similarly.

In response to your other cheap attacks, I’ll say this about DeSantis’ character. He has scrupulously avoided responding to the unprovoked, absolutely gratuitous, and often juvenile attacks Trump has launched in recent months. Loyalty is a two-way street, you know. DeSantis isn’t even running yet, has not criticized Trump, yet he’s the bad guy for not running to a bully’s aid.


25 posted on 03/19/2023 9:56:20 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: j.havenfarm

DeSantis, through his halfwit “influencers” of dubious loyalty, has engaged in a barely disguised campaign against President Trump and his voters for well over a year. To deny this is to deny the reality of the situation. Fortunately, Ron DeSantis, through his perfidy, has revealed his truth; he will never be President, thankfully.


26 posted on 03/19/2023 9:58:42 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: mikegreenwell39
I briefly taught at a prep school (also public school substitute teaching in Alameda and Contra Costa County, East Bay SF which was a horror show) when I was in grad school; even in the bad old days of the early 2000’s when Ron was teaching (I am about the same age) this was regarded as a big no-no, and was explicitly mentioned in orientation.

Well, I guess there are different kinds of prep schools. I do admit that my years were 1975-82. The prep school dated back to the 18th century in Connecticut, and with a couple of dozen teachers and 250-320 students spanning seven grades and half the students living in dormitories with a teacher/admin as the Dorm Master, avoiding fraternization would be anti-social. The worst problem wit it I saw was that sometimes the junior/senior co-eds would be too friendly with married male teachers in their 20s. (Prep schools do NOT pay well. They also don't require Ed Degrees.) Maybe things are different in California, or different 20 years later.
27 posted on 03/19/2023 9:58:49 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: Rufii

Vivek lacks credibility. Plus he is not Christian.

Deal killer.


28 posted on 03/19/2023 9:59:55 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: conservative98

Given that Trump has not been arrested, there is nothing wrong with waiting to make a statement.


29 posted on 03/19/2023 10:00:02 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

>> It damn well is DeSantis’s job to stand for the rule of law and against a political prosecution -— especially when the political prosecution could benefit him, personally.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DAMN STRAIGHT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


30 posted on 03/19/2023 10:01:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: conservative98

“Silence is violence”
“Words are violence”


31 posted on 03/19/2023 10:01:17 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: conservative98

For now it’s Trump. If DeSantis stays quiet and becomes the nominee, it will be him next they do it to.


32 posted on 03/19/2023 10:03:47 PM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

We had this same situation here of FR on Trump verses Cruz, people NEED to open their damn eyes as to WHO is FULL ON backing DeSantis, the GOPe, The Lincoln Project, Koch Industries, Club for Growth ect.!!! YES DeSantis is a GREAT governor HOWEVER, Jeb was a GREAT governor, Bush was a GREAT governor, Christy was a GREAT governor and on and on, ALL are SWAMP creatures say what you will about DeSantis just realize that DC does NOT give a damn how he governs his state, HOWEVER once he takes their money THEY OWN HIM!! Once in DC he will be another Bush, BANK ON IT!!!


33 posted on 03/19/2023 10:03:52 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

>> RDS is controlled by big donors who hate Trump. He’d be accused of biting the hand that’s feeding him if he said a word.

I’m not a “DeSantis hater” — he’s an excellent governor and part of the solution of turning this country back to righteousness.

That said, your comment resonates. DeSantis is triangulating at the moment.


34 posted on 03/19/2023 10:05:19 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I think things were as different from when you attended to when I taught (2001-2003, at a ritzy board/ day school in Monterrey and a day school in Oakland with higher academic standards), as they are now. Things were looked upon much differently in that time- and I am confident they are now. If Mr. DeSantis becomes the nominee (heaven forefend) it will definitely become an issue, rightly or not.


35 posted on 03/19/2023 10:06:39 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: mikegreenwell39

Yawn. At least you’re far from alone around here. Tell me: Do you guys wipe the foam off your lips from time to time, or do you just let it run down your chin naturally?


36 posted on 03/19/2023 10:07:53 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: mikegreenwell39

You really want to compare moral behavior between Trump and DeSantis? Neither man is a saint, but AFAIK, Ron hasn’t paid any hush money to a porn star.


37 posted on 03/19/2023 10:08:28 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: mikegreenwell39

Good luck with that, sport. Just you wishing it won’t happen doesn’t make it true. We know now that Trump pulled the Tuesday date for his arrest out of the hat, with nothing to back it up, and nothing from the DA’s office.

Turns out that the grand jury is still hearing from witnesses. There will be no arrest on Tuesday. This was irresponsible and undisciplined of Trump to post.

Has a PT Barnum ring to it.


38 posted on 03/19/2023 10:08:59 PM PDT by somerville (Juanita Broaddrick, the Clintons' smear campaign)
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To: j.havenfarm

DeSantis has been careful to avoid doing so himself, ergo no comment on President Trump’s persecution. Instead, he uses thinly veiled surrogates, then claims it isn’t him- I don’t buy it nor should any of you, but caveat emptor I suppose. With Ron DeSantis, you are getting performative (but not substantive) culture wars drive by various liberals slightly mugged by reality. If that is sufficient for you, bueno, but is weak sauce; coupled with Ron’s career politico vibes and status quo attitude, I think is an irrelevant distinction per the self serving perfidy of Mittens, McCain, Bush, et al. But, by all means, do you...I am sure things will get better with another go along get along candidate...


39 posted on 03/19/2023 10:11:18 PM PDT by mikegreenwell39
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To: Trump20162020

Agreed that DeSantis owes Trump nothing but he owes us. Pence hates Trump but commented on the weaponization of gov.

All of the RINOS are silent because they are fine with the weaponizing of gov. DeSantis (if he wants MAGA outcomes) should be commenting on these and other national subjects often.

Too many are foregivong DeSantis because he is a great governor who is cultured and proper. If he wants to be president he is going to have to speak boldly and often. And most important……openly attack our enemies with fervor.

Trump did/does that often and it exposed many things we did not know.

Examples of verbal wars:
McCain
Bush
Cruz
Fake news
Witch hunts

Many cringed until they realized he was right. We still have 200 RINOS that backed McCarthy without opposition. 20 stood up and fought. We have enough ‘proper’ hand wringers who only speak when it benefits them. That isn’t winning.


40 posted on 03/19/2023 10:12:41 PM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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