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1 posted on 04/28/2023 4:04:21 AM PDT by george76
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Currency debasement, yes.
Also: unchecked immigration by people who did not share Roman cultural values. Cultural debasement was a big problem too.


2 posted on 04/28/2023 4:13:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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BTTT


3 posted on 04/28/2023 4:13:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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On the other hand, the Eastern Roman Empire lived on with varying degrees of success under Emperors such as Justinian and Basil. It lost its African and Middle Eastern provinces to Islam, but it maintained its strength in Asia Minor until it was further weakened by the Crusades and eventually fell to the Turks, 1000 years after the fall of the Western Empire.


4 posted on 04/28/2023 4:30:34 AM PDT by FarCenter
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” How was the newest war, thermae, palace, or circus to be paid for?”

Boy Howdy, that sorta sounds a little like Washington DC.
But we can all be assured that ‘our’ government would never debase our dollar like them old Romans did their denarius. Would they?

From: usinflationcalculator.com
If in 1913 I purchased an item for $1.00
then in 2023 that same item would cost: $30.49
Cumulative rate of inflation: 2948.8%

As the old song goes, We are Headin for the Last Roundup and fast.


6 posted on 04/28/2023 4:36:59 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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From 1963...

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

We can't say we weren't warned.

7 posted on 04/28/2023 4:39:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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As I have read before, we are going through the exact same thing. Time to jettison everything and go live in another country. Better to be poor in Mexico than live with what his going to happen here.


8 posted on 04/28/2023 4:39:58 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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9 posted on 04/28/2023 4:57:02 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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Currency and the Collapse of the Roman Empire

"That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

11 posted on 04/28/2023 5:43:04 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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“...However, with a finite supply of silver and gold entering the empire, Roman spending was limited by the amount of denarii that could be minted...”

Reading Edward Gibbon's “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”, he is clear about what happened to the economy.

To paraphrase, he said that there was not enough gold and silver (etc.) for the valuation of commodities. So, slaves became currency.

A person's wealth could be calculated based on the number of slaves he held.

12 posted on 04/28/2023 5:53:31 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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14 posted on 04/28/2023 6:26:34 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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Rome is a perfect example of where debasement (money, culture, and people) and economic decline lead.

Sadly, there are other excellent examples since Rome....

-Spain

-British Empire

-Germany

All controlled the world -- until they didn't!

NEXT?

15 posted on 04/28/2023 6:29:12 AM PDT by icclearly
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