The AI Effect: A New Era in Music and It’s Unintended Consequences

YouTube ^ | May 4, 2023 | Rick Beato

[ConservativeInPA]

Rick Beato discusses the implications of AI in music

[blabs]

I think you’ve lost your perspective. Anyone human who “truly creates” music from scratch actually derives this music from terrabytes of knowledge that they themselves have learned and sort through. We are all a representation of AI, as knowledge is not inherent and learned, just as a computer learns. Anything you do, say, or create is a derivative of artificial intelligence, knowledge that was gained through learning and repetition.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

I am sure to be in the minority on this thread, but I am somewhat unconcerned about artificial “intelligence” — which is merely programmers coding programs to replicate and fake things.

If this was as wonderful a tech revolution as it is being portrayed, then going out to dinner where there is LIVE music would still mean LIVE music, or else it's just recorded stuff not worth a cover charge. Going to concerts, whether pop or classical, would still mean LIVE players doing something on stage, rather than paying big bucks to sit and look at a speaker system playing pre-recorded pabulum. Going to a musical or opera would require LIVE performers, still. And if everything is just AI digital, then the profits driven in part by personalities and personas would shrink. Nobody's gonna pay to sit in a room, big or small, and have recorded playback blasted at them. One push of a finger on a machine isn't going to attract paying audiences.

The whole just reeks of marketing, whether it be AI stuff or headlines about the future being a fearful thing. Be afraid; be very afraid. Or go sit at your piano and play a little Beethoven. I'll do the latter. And Beethoven won't be getting royalties either.....

[ConservativeInPA]

Isn’t this mostly AI altering a voice to sound like another so far?

It's a bit more than that. AI is writing new music in the style of an existing artist. What I haven't seen, which means I am not certain, is AI writing in its own style. That to me would be purely original and require multiple compositions with a consistent style.

As for sounding like a voice, that's the easy part. It is generating a voice, not altering a voice. That certainly can be done algorithmically, and probably isn't considered AI. Perhaps, if it get so far as generating emotion in a voice that would be considered AI.

To put a more political spin on things, AI can be used to generate "deep fakes", which includes video. If deep fakes get good enough they could generate video of footage of Trump committing an illegal act for instance.

[left that other site]

Beato fan here. If you have a ping list, put me on it. Thanks. :-)

[M. Thatcher]

It’s Unintended Consequences

Its.

Yes, if "the AI effect" can end ridiculous spelling errors I'm all for it.

[fuzzylogic]

Same page here.

AI is still in its infancy. Big tech has the goal of making a God with it. If it is possible, where there’s motivation and the resources available, it will be done. ChatGPT already does something no human can do - immediately write a grammatically correct, concise, answer to a complex question. It can do it far faster than any person.

I have asked it to write a song about cheating lovers in Milan, Italy, during winter, in the style of Metallica. While it’s a bizarre combination, I can’t say the output was bad - it was actually quite believable.

I do think actors should be terrified. They don’t write the script. CGI and AI together will bring voice and imagery that are completely fabricated and indistinguishable from the real thing.

[Captain Compassion]

I await Mahler Symphony # 11.

[Scrambler Bob]

I agree. Sometimes knowing what is going on in an artist’s life; pain, grief, breakup, love etc., makes a song more meaningful. I can’t imagine a computer composing an emotion filled song over say a memory upgrade or a hardware failure.
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Yes.

And same for AI Novels, documentaries, or other writing.

Hemmingway, George Washington, Mark Twain, Ian Fleming, etc. were all real persons, and their life stories known.

So reading their works becomes meaningful because it comes from their life, experiences we readers can connect with.

Not some AI production coming by accident after billions of ears.

[Scrambler Bob]

What I haven’t seen, which means I am not certain, is AI writing in its own style.
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Like some left-handed kid who learns to play guitar that is strung for a right-hander?