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Why the Alliance between Stalin and Hitler Must Never Be Forgotten
FEE ^ | July 23, 2023 | Benjamin Williams

Posted on 07/24/2023 10:54:52 AM PDT by grundle

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Also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarete_Buber-Neumann

1 posted on 07/24/2023 10:54:52 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

How about the alliance between Biden and Satan?


2 posted on 07/24/2023 11:07:47 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: grundle

Some people like to say that it was the Soviets, not the U.S., that defeated the Nazis. But the Nazis and Soviets were allies for the first part of the war, and afterward the U.S. supplied the Soviets with the materials it needed, not the other way around. And some, such as myself, like to say that the Soviets murdered more people than the Nazis, and we never should have allied with them in the later part of WWII.


3 posted on 07/24/2023 11:09:01 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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While all that is true, The U.S. didn't stop trade with Germany. Are we guilty also?

Since the U.S. joined the Alliance, does that absolve the U.S.?

If that absolves the U.S., why doesn't it absolve Germany?

4 posted on 07/24/2023 11:15:42 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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The Communists were the biggest isolationists of all in this country, before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. But they only talk about Lindbergh.


5 posted on 07/24/2023 11:19:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: grundle

Russians hated Stalin, who was a Georgian, btw.


6 posted on 07/24/2023 11:33:34 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It was indeed the Soviets. They also freed auschwitz.


7 posted on 07/24/2023 11:35:02 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

And Hitler was Austrian.


8 posted on 07/24/2023 11:35:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Nikita Khrushchev, who led the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964, agreed with Stalin’s assessment. In his memoirs, Khrushchev described how Stalin stressed the value of Lend-Lease aid: “He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war.”


9 posted on 07/24/2023 11:36:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Their leash from Moscow whipped sawed back and forth to whatever Stalin’s policy was at any moment.

It made look like the ridiculous puppets they truly were.


10 posted on 07/24/2023 11:38:28 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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I tire of what I suspect here is a Putin slander in disguise.

How many Iraqui infants and Serbian children did we kill?

Maybe they like transgender life, but I prefer Putin’s approach.

Some dictators provided a fantastic life for their people, until we came along and destroyed it.
Like Gaddafi.


11 posted on 07/24/2023 11:40:51 AM PDT by MarMema
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Russians hated Stalin, who was a Georgian, btw.
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And Hitler was Austrian.
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And Napoleon was Corsican


12 posted on 07/24/2023 11:40:55 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: dfwgator

Helped I can agree with.


13 posted on 07/24/2023 11:41:58 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Telepathic Intruder

You know what we never supplied to Russia?

The 20 millions lives it spent to defeat the nazis, including over 10 million military.

What could Hitler have done if he hadn’t opened a 2 front in the East….and been defeated by Russia…largely before we ever landed in Normandy…

If we want to remember bad treaties with Hitler, let’s look at Neville Chamberlain…..and even our bosom buddies we are now backing in Ukraine who enthusiastically embraced the nazi goals of racial purity through genocide and still parade their WW2 nationalist units that showed valor in murdering Jews, Poles, Roma, and after 1945, “communists”


14 posted on 07/24/2023 11:46:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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The 20 millions lives it spent to defeat the nazis,

Most of that was due to Stalin's incompetence. The Soviets won in spite of Stalin.

15 posted on 07/24/2023 11:47:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Hitler’s mistake was not treating the captured Russians and Ukrainians humanely, he probably could have raised an army of Russians and Ukrainians eager to defeat Bolshevism, but his brutality gave them no choice but to support Stalin.


16 posted on 07/24/2023 11:48:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: grundle
Thanks for posting. A good reminder. However, the author does not go far enough. Hitler would likely not have gained power in Germany if the Nazis and the Soviet secret organs had not cooperated since at least the early 1930s.

There is a lot of writings, both memoirs from the prewar years and academic historical research showing the early collaboration between Hitler and Stalin. For the layman maybe the most easily accessible book is Double Lives by Stephen Koch:

Double Lives

17 posted on 07/24/2023 11:56:42 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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It is quite amazing to read about how lock-step with the Soviet policy the communists in the Western countries were. Some left the party when the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was signed, but the large majority stayed faithful, even though that meant defending the Soviet policy vis-à-vis Germany. All of that changed of course on the 22 June 1941.


18 posted on 07/24/2023 12:01:50 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Stalin was terrified of the German Communists gaining power because they very well may have taken the reins of the Comintern away from Moscow.


19 posted on 07/24/2023 12:04:17 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Bkmrk


20 posted on 07/24/2023 12:43:37 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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