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Also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarete_Buber-Neumann

1 posted on 07/24/2023 10:54:52 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

How about the alliance between Biden and Satan?


2 posted on 07/24/2023 11:07:47 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Some people like to say that it was the Soviets, not the U.S., that defeated the Nazis. But the Nazis and Soviets were allies for the first part of the war, and afterward the U.S. supplied the Soviets with the materials it needed, not the other way around. And some, such as myself, like to say that the Soviets murdered more people than the Nazis, and we never should have allied with them in the later part of WWII.


3 posted on 07/24/2023 11:09:01 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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While all that is true, The U.S. didn't stop trade with Germany. Are we guilty also?

Since the U.S. joined the Alliance, does that absolve the U.S.?

If that absolves the U.S., why doesn't it absolve Germany?

4 posted on 07/24/2023 11:15:42 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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The Communists were the biggest isolationists of all in this country, before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. But they only talk about Lindbergh.


5 posted on 07/24/2023 11:19:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: grundle

Russians hated Stalin, who was a Georgian, btw.


6 posted on 07/24/2023 11:33:34 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: grundle
Thanks for posting. A good reminder. However, the author does not go far enough. Hitler would likely not have gained power in Germany if the Nazis and the Soviet secret organs had not cooperated since at least the early 1930s.

There is a lot of writings, both memoirs from the prewar years and academic historical research showing the early collaboration between Hitler and Stalin. For the layman maybe the most easily accessible book is Double Lives by Stephen Koch:

Double Lives

17 posted on 07/24/2023 11:56:42 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Bkmrk


20 posted on 07/24/2023 12:43:37 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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Marxism, National Socialism, Communism, Socialism, Democrat Party USA, Democratic Socialism. All the same turd with no clean end no matter how many sprinkles one applies. It is all evil


21 posted on 07/24/2023 1:30:35 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Stalin wanted communism in Russia. Trotsky wanted to go worldwide. Stalin killed Trotsky.
Stalin’s Red Army was in no way on a par with the Nazi army and he knew it. I think he was signing a side deal, hoping to give the nazis a reason to stop short in Poland and not continue on into the USSR. In the deal he got the Polish back parts of the Tsars’s Russia where they had been for hundreds of years before WWI.

His side deal with the nazis didn’t protect him from the nazi invasion 22 months later.

And don’t forget at that moment, Russia was in a bitter war in the east with Japan. He knew he couldn’t fight them both in 1939. He barely managed to post 1941.


24 posted on 07/24/2023 2:35:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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The New York Times and FDR and others also did not report on the Jewish people and millions of others being murdered in the concentration camps and by other means.

FTA: At the same time, the Soviet authorities kept the Jewish population uninformed about the ongoing Nazi atrocities just across the border, maintaining a deliberate silence that enabled the Holocaust. As part of the non-aggression pact, Soviet organs did not report the genocidal massacres conducted by the Nazis between 1939 and 1941. Those aforementioned anti-Nazi films were no longer being produced. Soviet newspapers like Pravda scarcely even used the word “fascist” from 1939 to 1941.


32 posted on 07/24/2023 6:22:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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