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The federal income tax was unconstitutional for most of our county’s existence.
x ^ | 2/24/2024 | Thomas Massie

Posted on 02/24/2024 1:14:00 PM PST by C210N

The federal income tax was unconstitutional for most of our county’s existence.

The founders of this country would have never agreed to it.

We should repeal it.


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KEYWORDS: 16thamendment; 2ndplankofcommunism; county; irs; massie; qtardnonsense; uraretard; whatcountywhatstate
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To: threefinger

The 16th amendment.


21 posted on 02/24/2024 3:00:45 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: C210N

I agree. But how do we pay for defense and highways?


22 posted on 02/24/2024 3:26:55 PM PST by Karoo
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To: C210N

the purpose IRS is to find and categorize pockets of true value that have yet to be molested by the big business/globalists

it is unconstitutional. The ratification of the 15th amendment was ‘incomplete” or fraudulent

https://www.givemeliberty.org/features/taxes/notratified.htm


23 posted on 02/24/2024 3:38:03 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Bonemaker
Yup, it's still unconstitutional.
24 posted on 02/24/2024 3:43:47 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Karoo

The way we did before the 16th Amendment.


25 posted on 02/24/2024 3:45:44 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: C210N

Born in the USlavery.

If you are a citizen of the United States, the government has assumed your identity as a taxpayer - a contractual obligation imposed on you when you were a newborn baby for government debts and services which you never signed your name to.

Did someone assume your identity? Oh noes! That’s not very politically correct. Identity theft much?

In legal parlance a name in all capital letters designates a corporation or the estate of the deceased. A US citizen is a corporation and is responsible to pay the debt of the United States (incorporated 1871) through taxation. If you want proof you are presumed to be a tax payer:

Look at your name on your drivers license. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your vehicle registration. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your auto insurance. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your debit card. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your utility statement. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your phone/internet bill. Is it in all capital letters?
Look at your name on your mortgage. Is it in all capital letters?

If you do not want to identify as a taxpayer, corporation or a dead man which accepts the responsibility for the debt created by your public employees, you must create superior evidence to the contrary and correct the public record so you have lawful standing. This is called correcting your political status as an American State National. Instead of the responsibility of paying taxes it comes with the responsibility of reeducating yourself. American State Nationals do not participate in corporate elections. Be aware of this.

Help can be found here: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org
Read to the bottom opening all the drop down menus.
If this sounds like it’s for you, contact your local assembly coordinator:
https://states.americanstatenationals.org/state-coordinators/


26 posted on 02/24/2024 3:54:36 PM PST by conservativeimage (Divorce the Deep State and Reconstruct Civilian Government: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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Read the history of the “approval” of the Sixteenth Amendment.

It was not properly passed, so actually it was not actually passed.


27 posted on 02/24/2024 3:54:58 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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To: conservativeimage

Great post. I took a weekend class with Bobby Lawrence, a disciple of David Lester Straight.

Fascinating, and at the same time breathtaking the lies we’ve all lived our entire lives, and now most accept it as reality when it is just a house of cards.


28 posted on 02/24/2024 4:22:55 PM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: C210N

Here’s a quick 4 minute video that hits a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoRzwLtDJos

Be aware, David Straight’s method puts people in dual citizenship remaining subject to federal jurisdiction.


29 posted on 02/24/2024 4:34:49 PM PST by conservativeimage (Divorce the Deep State and Reconstruct Civilian Government: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No; it says income taxes may be imposed without apportionment among the states. And before it, there was no mention of income tax in particular, but “direct taxes” in Article 1 Section 2.

In short, the Sixteenth Amendment inserted the second plank of communism, “a heavy progressive or graduated income tax”, into the Constitution, even though the amendment does not say it has to be perpetual.


30 posted on 02/24/2024 5:03:48 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: C210N

All those taxes you listed, it’s one big con job. They only expand the size of government, which requires more and more money to operate so it can continue to expand. Those who’ve hijacked government want to control and regulate literally everything.


31 posted on 02/24/2024 6:36:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; Reily

But how can the 16th Amendment be considered valid if we take the view that the interests of the international banking cabal never outweigh those of the American people?


32 posted on 02/24/2024 7:43:32 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: No name given

It’s armed robbery. For those of you who doubt it, try not paying your taxes. Eventually men with guns will show up.


33 posted on 02/24/2024 8:24:44 PM PST by curious7
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To: Dilbert San Diego; Reily

What I’ve said to you here speaks to the spirit of the law. But as for the letter of the law, the 16th Amendment—and a whole lot more than that—should be considered null and void because it happened within the fraudulent system established by the Act of 1871.


34 posted on 02/24/2024 9:21:48 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

I was ratified! The fact it was ratified in no way indicates my approval that this is a proper way to fund FedGov. We’ve done dumb amendments in our history suffered for it and are still suffering examples, 17th, 21st (It was repealed, still it was dumb!), 23rd, etc.

According to the United States Government Publishing Office, the following states ratified the amendment:

Alabama: August 10, 1909
Kentucky: February 8, 1910
South Carolina: February 19, 1910
Illinois: March 1, 1910
Mississippi: March 7, 1910
Oklahoma: March 10, 1910
Maryland: April 8, 1910
Georgia: August 3, 1910
Texas: August 16, 1910
Ohio: January 19, 1911
Idaho: January 20, 1911
Oregon: January 23, 1911
Washington: January 26, 1911
Montana: January 27, 1911
Indiana: January 30, 1911
California: January 31, 1911
Nevada: January 31, 1911
South Dakota: February 1, 1911
Nebraska: February 9, 1911
North Carolina: February 11, 1911
Colorado: February 15, 1911
North Dakota: February 17, 1911
Michigan: February 23, 1911
Iowa: February 24, 1911
Kansas: March 2, 1911
Missouri: March 16, 1911
Maine: March 31, 1911
Tennessee: April 7, 1911
Arkansas: April 22, 1911, after having previously rejected the amendment
Wisconsin: May 16, 1911
New York: July 12, 1911
Arizona: April 3, 1912
Minnesota: June 11, 1912
Louisiana: June 28, 1912
West Virginia: January 31, 1913
Delaware: February 3, 1913
Ratification (by the requisite 36 states) was completed on February 3, 1913, with the ratification by Delaware. The amendment was subsequently ratified by the following states, bringing the total number of ratifying states to forty-two of the forty-eight then existing:

New Mexico: (February 3, 1913)
Wyoming: (February 3, 1913)
New Jersey: (February 4, 1913)
Vermont: (February 19, 1913)
Massachusetts: (March 4, 1913)
New Hampshire: (March 7, 1913), after rejecting the amendment on March 2, 1911
The legislatures of the following states rejected the amendment without ever subsequently ratifying it:

Connecticut
Rhode Island
Utah
Virginia
The legislatures of the following states never considered the proposed amendment:

Florida
Pennsylvania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

You’re welcome to take your reading of it to the local IRS office in lieu of paying your taxes. It’s been done before maybe you can make it work thus time.


35 posted on 02/25/2024 6:44:25 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

Typo
First word
I should be It


36 posted on 02/25/2024 6:45:05 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: C210N

BTTT!


37 posted on 02/25/2024 8:50:09 AM PST by Pagey ( Valerie Jarrett IS A DEMON! )
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To: Reily
Re-read the reply you were replying to:

it happened within the fraudulent system established by the Act of 1871.

Could have been all 57 states, no matter. Wikipedia is akin to DSC fact checkers.

There are problems with many "amendments" after the initial 12. Starting with the 13th (look up the original 13th amendment...). The 14th started our travels from Constitutional Republic to the UNITED STATES, INC. From Common Law to Maritime Law. The 14th codified the notion of an "American Citizen", prior to which we were solely citizens of our respective states.

The 16th contravenes the Constitution.

Furthermore, the IRS is merely a collection agency for the non-federal non-reserve Federal Reserve, to pay them for the "privilege" handed to them of printing the money supply with interest.

38 posted on 02/25/2024 9:09:56 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: reasonisfaith

re: #32

Exactly, thank you. See my prior reply.

The days of the FED, and the IMF/UN-owned IRS they rode into town on, are coming to a close.


39 posted on 02/25/2024 9:11:38 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Reily

All you’re telling me is the corrupted system made some moves to corrupt the system even more.


40 posted on 02/25/2024 9:29:16 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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