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So THIS Is How The Dems Plan To TAKE OUT Trump!!!
YT ^ | 3/12/2024 | Steve Turley

Posted on 03/12/2024 12:18:41 PM PDT by Signalman

If you don't care to watch the video, here is the plan.

1. Convict Trump of election interference in October or November, or just before the election.

2. Based on the conviction, members of Congress will refuse to certify the election results if Trump wins.


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To: ETCM

It would Go to state house delegation vote...a vote of the 50 states. The dems might end up having a few more numbers in the congress but Republicans will probably still control more state houses so The republicans will control who gets to be president.


41 posted on 03/12/2024 2:14:17 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: I want the USA back
They do not plan to let the election play out normally - they are desperate and will do whatever it takes.

That's why they already have their mouthpieces out there saying that Trump is Hitler and he can not be allowed to win this election or he will murder everyone. The usual nonsense. They are preparing the ground for a "by any means necessary" effort to re-steal the White House.
42 posted on 03/12/2024 2:17:52 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: mdmathis6
It would Go to state house delegation vote...a vote of the 50 states.

For that to happen, Congress would also have to refuse to certify the Electoral Votes cast separately for Trump's running mate. Otherwise, per Amendment XX of the Constitution, Trump's running mate would become the acting President.

43 posted on 03/12/2024 2:18:10 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Signalman

I think the individual States will certify their own results. Some few might refuse to act, so they can be ignored.

The Electoral votes from however many States remain will make the decision. I think.


44 posted on 03/12/2024 2:20:02 PM PDT by DNME (… all experience hath shewn … )
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To: Signalman
members of Congress will refuse to certify the election results if Trump wins.

The problem with this is that there is no vote to "certify the election results" in Congress.

There is only a vote to object to the votes of Electors on a state-by-state basis. Congress can only object to Electors for two reasons:

  1. The electors of the State were not lawfully certified by the state.
  2. The vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.
That's it. Congress cannot vote to reject Trump unless they plan to vote separately on high Electoral Vote states to disqualify states that Trump won.

I don't see how the Democrats in Congress can possibly do this if the states certify their own elections.

-PJ

45 posted on 03/12/2024 2:25:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Georgia Girl 2
That’s a possible scenario or it will give the Dems an excuse to postpone the election.

Pursuant to 3 U.S.C. sec. 21, "election day" -- i.e., the date by which presidential Electors are chosen -- is defined to mean "the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President held in each State, except, in the case of a State that appoints electors by popular vote, if the State modifies the period of voting, as necessitated by force majeure events that are extraordinary and catastrophic, as provided under laws of the State enacted prior to such day, 'election day' shall include the modified period of voting."

Accordingly, "the Dems" -- whomever you mean by that, although presumably you mean the Dems in Congress -- cannot, as a matter of federal law, "postpone the election." Individual state are afforded some discretion in modifying the date of "election day" in their own state (in extraordinary circumstances), but Congress itself cannot unilaterally act in the manner you are presumably postulating.

In truth, there is no single "Presidential election," in terms of the choosing of Electors. Rather, there are 51 separate such Presidential elections held every four years.

46 posted on 03/12/2024 2:36:42 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Signalman

The Supreme Court already said they can’t do this without legislation.


47 posted on 03/12/2024 2:38:49 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: SoConPubbie

“Trump should choose a VP just as onerous to the Demonrats!”

Is there such a person? I don’t think there is.


48 posted on 03/12/2024 2:42:36 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: justme4now

But this refusal-to-certify has nothing to do with those qualifications. It’s a totally different thing.


49 posted on 03/12/2024 2:46:02 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: DSH

Stay tuned.


50 posted on 03/12/2024 2:53:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Raheem Kassam said if this happens there will be massive “carnage” in the U.S.


51 posted on 03/12/2024 2:55:09 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: MayflowerMadam

Certainly not Tim Scott!


52 posted on 03/12/2024 2:58:14 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: Signalman
"2. Based on the conviction, members of Congress will refuse to certify the election results if Trump wins."

How? The Democrats shot themselves in the foot with the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022.

They raised the Objection rules from one House + one Senate member to any Objection must be signed by 1/5 of all House members + 1/5 of all Senate members. 20 Senators to every Objection. You can't get 20 Senators to agree on the proper temperature of the Senate Bean Soup served in their commissary.

And all of that is required simply to get an Objection to the next step.

Meanwhile they restricted the basis of any Objection, and if that wasn't enough, pre-empted the nebulous language surrounding certification of electors at the state level.

Congressional proceedings

The bill clarifies that the Vice President's role in the counting of the electoral votes is "solely ministerial," with no power to "determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors." Any objection made by senators or representatives during the counting of the electoral votes must be made in writing and signed by at least one-fifth of the Senators and one-fifth of the Members of the House of Representatives. Previously, an objection required the signatures of only one member of each chamber. The bill also limits the grounds for an objection to one of the following:


53 posted on 03/12/2024 2:58:29 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: BigFreakinToad

I hope he has a great MAGA backup.

I strongly suspect he doesn’t make it to the 20th of January from the alphabet crowd and then CW II breaks out.


54 posted on 03/12/2024 2:59:57 PM PDT by spacewarp (Want freedom? Reject Dems.)
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To: ducttape45

“I hope Turley isn’t fear mongering with this, but it looks plausible.”

It isn’t Turley’s idea. I think it was Raheem Kassam or Kash Patel who uncovered this plan being considered by the RATs as an actual option.


55 posted on 03/12/2024 3:01:54 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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bookmark


56 posted on 03/12/2024 3:02:16 PM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: tinamina

Definitely not Tim Scott. He’s one of “them” — a squish who has done his share to disparage MAGA. Isn’t he the one who supported Murkowski?


57 posted on 03/12/2024 3:04:53 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: odawg
If the democrats take over Congress

LOL.

58 posted on 03/12/2024 3:08:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rightwingcrazy
"Voting not to certify on that basis would be tantamount to a coup."

What, again!!??

59 posted on 03/12/2024 3:17:23 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: Signalman

And, the Republicans will do nothing about it.


60 posted on 03/12/2024 3:28:40 PM PDT by caver ( )
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