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To: Alas Babylon!
IMHO from a dollars and cents perspective, an EV is too costly for the little bit of driving you describe. Would an EV handle your driving habits in your climate? Absolutely.

But would the extra costs of owning an EV be made up with gas savings? No. So don't get an EV unless you just want the novelty of it, or the zippy acceleration, or the convenience of charging at home vs having to stop at the gas station even for local driving.

Here are some of the costs that come with having an EV:

Monthly costs:
1. Car insurance is higher because the car value is higher. (In my case it's $70/month higher than the coverage on our ICE car it replaced because I want from liability-only coverage of the old gas car to full coverage of the new EV).

Annual costs:
2. Alabama has a $200 EV fee on the car tag renewal to offset EV owners not having to pay the gas tax. IMHO it's reasonable, us EV owners should pay our share of the road upkeep. But count that as one extra cost that EV's have that gas cars don't have.
3. The rest of the car tag tax is higher because it's ad valorem. In other words, if the EV is worth more it's taxed more.

10-year maintenance cost:
4. Replacing the battery will cost at least $10K in today's dollars (more if it's an expensive EV like Tesla).

Up-front costs:
5. EV's cost more. Or at least they did when I bought mine 2 years ago. Maybe now a new EV costs less than a comparable new gas car.
6. Setting up the home charging costs. In my case about $2K (not counting extra I paid to have the electrician to add outlets to my garage while he was there, and run two charging circuits so that one could be powered by only free solar).

The gas savings is real. I get about 3.8 miles per kWh added to the power bill (pretending I don't have solar providing 80% of my power) for local driving. (My car gets more miles per kWh than that, but after accounting for about 10% loss when converting AC power to DC while charging, call it 3.8 miles/kWh.) Alabama Power charges us about 15¢ to 16¢ per kWh (after adding in their fuel surcharge per kWh and the 4% state tax, but subtracting the fixed monthly fees and state tax totaling $15.60 per month regardless of how many kWh we pull from the grid that month). So think about how many miles you drive per month, divide that by 3.8 to get the # of kWh charging would add to your monthly power bill, then multiply that by 16¢ and that's how much it'll probably add to your power bill at today's rates. That's probably less than the gas you spend, plus the oil change (in my case I replaced my oil every 5K miles). Thus, the gas savings is real.

But probably not as much as the extra costs I listed above for owning an EV.

24 posted on 04/29/2024 2:17:42 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

The whole point of forcing EVs down peoples’ throats is to make personal transportation unaffordable for the common man.


27 posted on 04/29/2024 2:22:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Tell It Right

Awesome and valuable advice, thank you!


29 posted on 04/29/2024 2:42:35 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Tell It Right

great breakdown of ev costs but, you missed a. ug expense. tires. I get 40-50k out of a set of tires for my ice vehicle. at $900 for a new set of tires that adds. another 2.5 cents per mile. Ev’s run what? 10-15k between sets of tires? you need to add another 10 cents per mile to your ev costs.


33 posted on 04/29/2024 3:52:48 PM PDT by Ikeon (My only issues with stupid people are, they encouraged to talk and post stupid opinions.. )
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