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The Quotable Rudolph W. Giuliani (the Useful Idiot Candidate----liberal to the core)
PUBLISHED SOURCES | 7/14/06 | RESEARCH COURTESY OF JLA

Posted on 07/14/2006 10:54:19 AM PDT by Liz

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459

---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994

--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993

--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993

--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989

--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.

--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989

--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998

--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989

--On Rudy's 2008 candidacy: "That dream of Rudy Giuliani as the man of 2008 was a fantasy created in New York City, and not something that is an accepted reality to anyone who knows the national Republican Party or even Washington Republicans," said the former White House official. "That’s the joke of this." Ben Smith, page 17 The New York Observer 12/20/2004 edition.


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To: sinkspur
"I know nearly every one of these posters on this thread who is supporting Guliani?"

No you don't. Name their real names if you know them. You are kidding yourself if you don't think his law firm is not on these websites pushing him for president.
141 posted on 07/14/2006 12:25:30 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: areafiftyone

You also believe the tooth fairy put that quarter under yout pillow, and that McDonald's hamburgers are 100% beef, too, eh?


142 posted on 07/14/2006 12:25:52 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: B Knotts

Dear B Knotts,

"If he were nominated, it would end the dominance of the GOP for 20 years,..."

I hope you're wrong, but you could be right.

"... and likely spawn at least one significant third party effort."

I think that nominating Mr. Giuliani could actually unravel the Republican Party altogether, and see its replacement by some other now obscure party.


sitetest


143 posted on 07/14/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: tkathy
Regardless of all the cheap shots, Rudy at this point is the only rep candidate who is electable

Not necessarily...I'll bet you could get Howard Dean to change parties if you offer him the Presidency...I believe he's more conservative than Rudy...And he's electable...Shoot, Barney Frank might go for it, if yer lucky...

144 posted on 07/14/2006 12:26:34 PM PDT by Iscool (President Bush loves AMNESTY...But he hates the DICTIONARY...)
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To: areafiftyone
Um you are quite wrong in that regard. I am all for Rudy being president but sorry I don't work for the guy. I work for an internet firm here in NYC. As far as anyone else I would not know that.

Does that mean that none are? No. Nice try though.
145 posted on 07/14/2006 12:27:09 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Hendrix
That is a good way to reply--pretend that it is not happening and it is a big LOL. They are on this website as cheerleaders right now, but they won't admit it. The same thing happened during the Myers mess.

Honestly, if you're absolutely positive that employees from the Bracewell & Giuliani lawfirm are cheerleading for Rudy on this thread, can you please identify them by screenname?

If you don't really know who they are, you look like a bit of a paranoid kook.

146 posted on 07/14/2006 12:27:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: freespirited

" It's a given that he'd win New York and almost certainly New Jersey. Very likely Pennsylvania. I think he'd win California. Also Wisconsin, Minnesota--states that were close but went to Kerry last time. Maybe even Michigan and Illinois. "

I disagree, he would likely pull Penn, Mich, Minn, and Wisc . The others are by no means a lock, even though he is from New York , they are die hard blue states and Rudy would have an R next to his name . The deep blue states won't go for Rudy unless he goes Dim .It's called extreme modern polarization and Rudy is not immune to it .


147 posted on 07/14/2006 12:27:13 PM PDT by FRONTLINER (Katherine Harris for Senate '06 !)
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To: tkathy

Oh boy! Here we go again.


148 posted on 07/14/2006 12:27:32 PM PDT by P8riot ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone)
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To: sinkspur
I know nearly every one of these posters on this thread who is supporting Guliani?

Birds of a feather...

149 posted on 07/14/2006 12:27:33 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70 (Conservative all the way!)
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To: B Knotts
"However, he came out in favor of partial-birth abortion, for crying out loud. He's going to have a tough time distancing himself from that position."

- States rights, old man, states rights is Rudy's way out.
And, when it comes down to it, would you rather have a President (Rudy) who promises not to federally legislate in this matter or a President (Hitlery) who would certainly try - since she has even voted in favor of partial birth abortion?
150 posted on 07/14/2006 12:28:32 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: dead
"Honestly, if you're absolutely positive that employees from the Bracewell & Giuliani lawfirm are cheerleading for Rudy on this thread, can you please identify them by screenname?
If you don't really know who they are, you look like a bit of a paranoid kook."

Not paranoid--just not naive.
151 posted on 07/14/2006 12:30:14 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: AFA-Michigan
Please identify the "cheap shots" and explain what's "cheap" about them?

The cheap shot is that these people have been exposed...They'd rather vote for a liberal than a conservative...

152 posted on 07/14/2006 12:30:49 PM PDT by Iscool (President Bush loves AMNESTY...But he hates the DICTIONARY...)
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To: finnigan2

Dear finnigan2,

"This would satisfy most of the Republican base without having to do a complete about face and try to defend why he has suddenly renounced his previous positions, as Lieberman had to do in 2000."

The problem is that it would be a complete about-face, at least on abortion. He's said over the years that he believes in a constitutional right for a woman to procure the killing of her unborn child. Now, to say it's really an issue for the states to decide really would be an about-face.

As well, he's said he is against overturning Roe. You can't get to the position of saying it should be a matter for the states to decide without vitiating Roe.

Mr. Giuliani has really been very forceful and passionate about his belief in abortion "rights" in the past, and I admire him, if for nothing else, for his forthrightness and lack of fence-sitting on the issue. But it squarely places Mr. Giuliani in the "them" camp for those of us for whom the on-going killing of over one million innocents each year is a paramount issue.

He's left no room for wiggling. Which is an admirable trait, in my view, but doesn't leave him anywhere to go.


sitetest


153 posted on 07/14/2006 12:31:18 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: HarleyLady27; Liz
WOW....you take the trophy on being a bashing idiot....

Its one thing if you don't like someone, and don't like what they stand for, but its completely another thing to expel the type of trash that you just expelled....
Oh, my. You're so right. Next time Liz decides to post something on Giuliani, instead of using researched quotes she should just call him an idiot. Uh huh. There's a winning strategy.
154 posted on 07/14/2006 12:31:38 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?)
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To: finnigan2

Will he federally legislate gun control ? Might bet is yes .


155 posted on 07/14/2006 12:32:42 PM PDT by FRONTLINER (Katherine Harris for Senate '06 !)
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To: Hendrix

Well said. We can do better than to select a RINO as our candidate. We might as well select Hillary as the Republican candidate.


156 posted on 07/14/2006 12:33:35 PM PDT by Theo ("Scientists" believe in both evolution and man-caused global warming. They're wrong in both cases.)
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To: Hendrix
Not paranoid--just not naive.

So you can’t name them. That’s what I expected.

You just made their existence up, and now you want to label everybody who doesn’t believe in your imaginary friends “naïve.”

Maybe the voices you hear in your head can talk some sense to you.

157 posted on 07/14/2006 12:33:59 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Liz

we get it...you hate rudy and theres nothing new in your post other than the old tired hate Rudy mumbojumbo


158 posted on 07/14/2006 12:34:02 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: dead

Believe what you want. Why would you doubt that there are not people from his law firm that would be out trying to run a PR campain for him, even on these boards?


159 posted on 07/14/2006 12:35:26 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Liz
You also believe the tooth fairy put that quarter under yout pillow, and that McDonald's hamburgers are 100% beef, too, eh?

LISTEN LADY since you are so good at quoting news sources - here is the source for you.

Kerik Quits Giuliani Firm to Work on `Clearing' Name
Bloomberg - December 24, 2004

160 posted on 07/14/2006 12:36:13 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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