Posted on 07/14/2006 10:54:19 AM PDT by Liz
Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:
--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989
--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992
--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989
--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett
--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997
--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459
---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133
--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994
--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994
--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998
--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993
--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993
--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989
--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992
--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.
--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."
--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989
--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989
--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998
--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993
--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989
--On Rudy's 2008 candidacy: "That dream of Rudy Giuliani as the man of 2008 was a fantasy created in New York City, and not something that is an accepted reality to anyone who knows the national Republican Party or even Washington Republicans," said the former White House official. "That’s the joke of this." Ben Smith, page 17 The New York Observer 12/20/2004 edition.
The Rudy types have a far more despicable agenda. One of the ding-a-ling Rudy worshippers alluded to the fact that if Rudy wins the nomination, it would force conservatives to pack their bags and leave the Republican party.
So there you have it. The Rudy candidacy is intended to deliver the coupe de grace to conservatives, so the pro-aborts can takeover the Republican party.
Man, I'd like to know what these braindead Rudy-types have been inhaling.
Dear Cincinna,
I worked up close with the Clinton gang, I know what they're like. I have a couple of scars in my back I'd like to show you...
That being said, much of Mr. Clinton's agenda was stopped by the fact that he ran into a Republican opposition. One example would be Hillarycare.
Yet, when Mr. Bush proposed a massive expansion of a massive entitlement program - the drug benefit for Medicare, the "Republican" Congress jumped like a trained seal to do his bidding. And compared to Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Bush is a rock-ribbed radical rightist.
The next president will, for example, likely have to deal again with Social Security. President H. Clinton will have to compromise with Republicans to come up with a solution that doesn't entirely suck. President Giuliani will be able to get whatever liberal thing he wants through the Congress, whether Republican-controlled or Democrat-controlled.
"I like Rudy, but I would support almost any GOP candidate in a National election against a Democrat."
Me, too! I like Rudy too! And I would vote for nearly any GOP candidate for president against a Democrat.
But Mr. Giuliani is one of two prominently-mentioned Republicans for whom I would not vote. The other is Mr. Romney.
I notice that Jim Robinson's running a preference poll for the presidential nomination right now. Here are the candidates listed:
Tom Tancredo, George Allen, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Mike Pence, John McCain, and Bill Frist.
Nine Republicans who are prominently mentioned. If nominated, I'd vote for Mr. Tancredo, Mr. Allen (with perhaps a little hesitation), Mr. Bush, Mr. Pence, Mr. McCain (although I fear my hand would palsey after committing the act), or Mr. Frist (without any enthusiasm.
But all these men can be fairly labeled conservatives, moderate conservatives, or at least moderates.
Messrs. Giuliani and Romney are liberals.
I won't vote for a liberal for president.
sitetest
The veronica-types attempting to label all conservatives as Nazis is a good clue.
A hippopotamus in a dress would look better than Hillary, and would even be a far superior candidate.
It is about all those issues----but remember that abortion is the issue that separates the men from the boys.
Agreed, that is the telltale issue. All the others fall in place.
Its one thing if you don't like someone, and don't like what they stand for, but its completely another thing to expel the type of trash that you just expelled....
Please explain to me where the "bashing" was: I saw quotes of things that Guiliani had said. Just how is that bashing, or is bringing up the things a politician has said and done "off limits?"
Mark
I'd like to remind you that as Mayor, Rudy had the ability to influence those sorts of things. Outside of federal law enforcement, the President has no influence, on the states or local LE. As the President, he will be able to influence legislation, and that will be liberal at heart.
Mark
Nonetheless, Rudy is willing to fake it since this liberal ding-dong knows he's nowhere without conservatives.
MAJOR STUDY BY THE PEW FORUM: Republicans Can't Win Without Christian Conservatives
Americans who regularly attend worship services and hold traditional Christian religious views increasingly vote Republican, while those who are less connected to religious institutions and more secular in their outlook tend to vote Democratic, according to a major study by the Pew Forum.
Some of the conclusions of this report were already evident in 2004 exit polling data. For example, voters who attend church more than once a week (16 percent of all voters) chose Bush over Kerry by a margin of 64 – 35 percent.
Likewise, those who attend Christian denominational Churches on a weekly basis (26 percent of voters) supported the President by a 58 – 41 percent margin. Also very telling, those who never attend Church (15 percent of voters) overwhelmingly supported Kerry 62 – 36 percent.
The study further found that traditionalist elements within each religion tended to vote Republican, while modernist groups within the religions trended towards the Democrats. A multiple regression analysis of exit poll and public opinion survey data from 2000 and 2004 enabled the Pew Research Center to assign a relative weight to various demographic markers.
Interestingly, church attendance was tied with race as the most significant factor. But even that number is deceiving; in that race is only an important factor due to the high level of support the Democrats receive from black voters.
These trends represent a major shift over the past forty-five years. White Christian Evangelicals in 1960 favored Democrats by a two-to-one margin; now they are Republican by a 56 – 27 percent margin. Seventy-eight percent of them voted for President Bush in 2004.
In 1960, 71 percent of Catholics were Democrats and now Democrats have only a slight edge among Catholics (44 – 41 percent) and Catholics voted for President Bush (52 – 47 percent) in 2004. These trends have also brought an increased acceptance of religion in the public square.
While Americans do tend to favor the separation of church and state, 70 percent of voters want their President to have strong Christian religious beliefs. Likewise, the study reveals that 52 percent of Americans believe that Christian churches should express political views. Surprisingly, support for political involvement of churches is strongest among younger voters age 18 to 29 (59 percent).
Same here. I really appreciate what he did as far as fighting crime in NYC, but I think that the reason he was able to was because most of his other liberal programs had already been implemented by previous administrations. The only thing new was his fight against crime, and the leftists in NYC did scream like stuck pigs over that. But other than crime, I don't see how his administration was any different than that of Koch.
I don't know enough about McCain to make a final determination at this time though I tend to think poorly of him overall.
All I need to do is think about "The Keating Five," and that tells me all I need to know about McCain. Just because someone serves his country with honor doesn't mean that he can't be a scumbag outside the war zone, years later.
Mark
Wait a minute... You mean it's spelled Guliani? I thought it was "Jewliani!" Who-da-thunk-it?
Mark
LOL-----hippo? That might make Rudy nervous enough to get lipoed. LOL.
I saw the difference that he made in NYC between the Koch, Dinkins, and Guiliani administrations. However, as Mayor, he didn't need to worry about implementing any of his liberal programs, since they were already in place, or supported by the liberal city and state governments. The only thing that he did crossing thost liberal ideas was fighting crime, and the liberal establishment wasn't too happy about that. But the key is, he was in sync with the liberal establishment on everything else.
On the other hand, as president, he's going to try to bring those liberal ideals to the rest of the country, and while NYC is a nice place to visit (or it was, untill Bloomberg started up there), I don't want those programs and ideals coming to my part of the country.
Mark
My apologies to hippos around the world. It was as close as I could think of to Hillary.
Wish we could get that on a tee shirt.
I don't know about a Tee-shirt, but we could easily fit it on the seat of Hillary's pants.
How come moderates are the most statist people imaginable next to communists? They love laws. Laws make them feeeeel all gooood and secuuuuure inside. They scaaaaare me.
You notice finnigan2 said Rudy only had to say these things, not believe them.
Truth hurts?
Two words.
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