Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith
That's an assumption on your part. Investigating EVERYTHING is sensible. Sitting and jeering others for investigating is what's foolish.
MY deepest apologies
Its been so long since anyone asked me ‘Where is Quidam “ I thought you were a newbie asking how to find out who he is
LOL
Then I looked you up and realized you have beenhere as long as I have
Did you get it from a hospital employee?
Investigate Smith a bit more ...Its the best place to start
Whatever Hawaii birth certificate Obama comes up with, if it doesn’t explain what we’ve already experienced with the Hawaii government it better not be accepted as the real deal. The crimes that have been committed cannot go away even if Obama is able to age a document so it passes as authentic.
This is why I really believe that the criminal justice system needs to be brought into this.
And I think you’re right about the “court of public opinion” - which is why the dems are willing to try to go for broke by using this as a wedge issue between conservatives. They can’t win the case on its merits. If we had a factual conversation in the public sphere about this Obama would lose big-time. So they’re trying to make it into a big political game.
Law enforcement should never be subject to political games. We saw it with the Duke lacrosse case. We saw it with Scooter Libby. We’ve seen it with William Jefferson. Heck, we saw it with Bill Clinton and his “Magnificent Seven” DC Circuit Court judges who bypassed the random assignment of cases to get the Clinton buddies’ cases for themselves.
I think we REALLY need to push hard on the law enforcement aspect of this because whether it is considered “conspiracy” or not, we have ample proof that law enforcement at every level has refused to investigate valid concerns and evidence brought forth by the public. And only a moron would say it’s “extreme” to expect law enforcement to put politics aside.
Good investigation tracks down ALL leads. Even slight things.
look at my post #105 ...Smith wont respond to it and should
Another possible is that with no one actually knowing the truth about who he is they can then recreate obama for whomever he is in front of.
Need some middle east money--yeah I'm a Kenyan.
Need some US dough "yeah my dad was really malcom X" or take you pick.
This guy can and is recreated every day of the year depending on the needs of his handlers.
He doesn’t owe you anything. People are free to answer. Or not. This is about Bam.
Ran across this last night...This is as good a place to post it as any...
Thought it was interesting....Follow the money...and all that. No wonder Kenya isn’t talking. 8X is a lot of money.
According to a study, U.S. Arms Exports and Military Assistance in the “Global War on Terror, compiled by the Center for Defense Information at the World Security Institute last September: (2008???)
Kenya is considered a vital U.S. ally in the war on terror and has supported U.S. counterterrorism efforts by sharing intelligence, providing overflight rights and granting access to airfields and bases. The State Department considers Kenya to be a “front-line state” in the war on terror and this counterterrorism cooperation has yielded an increase in U.S. military assistance for Kenya since Sept. 11, 2001.
In the five years after Sept. 11, Kenya received nearly eight times the amount of military assistance it received in the five years prior to Sept. 11.
SMITH owes YOU the truth ....otherwise he is wasting YOUR time
(he already wasted mine)...or just call it entertainment
Smith is every bit as pathological as Obama
It is possible that more than one liar is in the world isnt it?
Smith is the ONE we are dealing with here
LAST
You want the TRUTH about Obama?
Better hang around with TRUTHFUL people
And if it's such a waste of time, why are you here?
As I said, good investigators check EVERYTHING. Healthy skepticism is the key.
The weight on the Kenyan BC is not the same as the weight Obama noted in “Dreams From My Father”. On p 22 he says he was 8 lb 2 oz at birth.
Kind of a peculiar thing to note. It comes in the middle of a passage already documented to be chock-full of lies regarding BHO and SAD’s story. I’m thinking maybe Bill Ayers was trying to get in all the documentable stuff he had to lie about all at once so he could use his artistic energy freely on the rest of the book.
Better hang around with TRUTHFUL people
I have no info on any Freepers past. Do you? Do you run background checks on every Freeper you post to? Geeze Dude!
Yes, that one is fake.
In fact, when Orly Taitz first revealed it, I had NoCompromise (of http://nocompromisemedia.com) get ahold of Dr. Taitz and warn her that she should hold off on using this as “proof” because we doubted the veracity of her newly discovered registration of birth because it named Kenya as the “Coast Province, Republic of Kenya.”
Kenya, at that time was called the “Kenya Colony” and wasn’t called the Republic of Kenya until 12 December 1964.
This document is dated 17 February 1964; Ten months prior to Kenya’s name change! So, it certainly had our red flags popping up.
Anyway, back to the story; NoCompromise called up Dr. Taitz and they exchanged pleasantries. When NoCompromise told Dr. Taitz that we doubted the veracity of the birth certificate because of the “Republic of Kenya” reference, Dr. Taitz suddenly became agitated and said she would get back to NoCompromise later, but had to go. That was it.
Never heard back from Dr. Taitz again...
So, I crossed Dr. Taitz off my list of “reliable” sources...
Cheers
Listen up limp di-ck (that’s you woofie). Do you know how many times I’ve answered the Obots and other limp di-ck viagra guys like you that live on the Internet?
I’m DONE answering Obots and other half rate investigators such as yourself.
I spent months, MONTHS, answering questions on my Youtube channel while other “Patriots” locked their sites down do that Obots couldn’t ask questions.
I’m about the most objective guy you’ll find anywhere when you are talking about investigating Obama.
I stand for the truth.
I DONE with answering Obots and viagra popper like you that get your kicks off of attempting to discredit the most tremendous mind in modern US history.
The CPGH 1961 Mombasa birth certificate has NEVER been discredited. I work day and night conducting research into objective investigation of the Kenyan birth. I’ve spent thousands dollars in travel and buying other old documents which back the Kenyan birth.
I’m not going to answer the same questions over and over and over and over again just because viagra poppers like you get off on attempting dicredit me and the CPGH 1961 document.
Maybe you should join up with GreatKim aka Mik Tearg and you guy both can hand job each other while Kim creates a few more forgeries and tells a few more tall tales in his attempt to discredit me. I know, you guys just want to finally get the recoginition for your such profoundly brilliant minds (at least that’s what Kim has told me he is looking for).
I’m off to use my time in a constructive way to make progress and not to answer silly Obot questions that I spent months answering from June 2009 thru November 2009.
Good day.
Respectfully,
Lucas Daniel Smith
True, but it still appears to this non-lawyer to be admissible under a hearsay exception.
My take on the FRE 803 (below) is that an HI COLB is _presumed_ to be "self-authenticating" so no subpoena desus tecum is required if actually placed in evidence in court.
This means no HI official need appear in court to testify as to the COLB authenticity under an explicit exception to the "hearsay rule" which means that an HI COLB placed in evidence (not with Factcheck) is basically the equivalent of prima facie evidence, but still can be challenged, just as prima facie evidence can be challenged.
(Again, this exception to the hearsay rule does not apply to foreign certified vital records, such as a Kenya BC.)
Excerpts below from FRE on hearsay taken from link:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rules.htm#Rule803
Rule 803. Hearsay Exceptions; Availability of Declarant Immaterial
The following are not excluded by the hearsay rule, even though the declarant is available as a witness:
(9) Records of vital statistics. Records or data compilations, in any form, of births, fetal deaths, deaths, or marriages, if the report thereof was made to a public office pursuant to requirements of law.
Obama’s BC was amended during the time he was considering a run for the presidency, if the Hawaii DOH has been honest and accurate in the particular requests in question (which is a big “if”, granted).
I think it’s highly unlikely that SAD had anything to do with either Obama’s original BC or the amendment to it.
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