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Why is there no right to live where you please?
The Week ^ | October 24, 2018 | Bonnie Kristian

Posted on 10/24/2018 11:34:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are being lectured by children.


41 posted on 10/24/2018 1:18:27 PM PDT by myerson
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To: Brian Griffin

Germany is an exceptional example, but based on 1953 to 1988 so is Korea.


42 posted on 10/24/2018 1:19:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As far as I know, there is only one country on earth where I can legally hold a job - my own - the USA.


43 posted on 10/24/2018 1:19:35 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: caseinpoint

Unless you actually are willing to tolerate second class “citizenship”. The reason that I think this argument is both serious and dangerous, is that at base, this is where the #NeverTrump, for lack of a better word, and then cultural Left come together. The #NeverTrump crew doesn’t think anyone should get anything merely for being a citizen, it’s a pure dog—eat-dog economic world where you either compete successfully in the global labor market, or suffer the consequences (fortunately for them, the labor market for “conservative” columnists willing to say bad things about Trump and his supporters will always be tight). The cultural Left doesn’t care about American workers unless they are not white, and then they care about them not as workers, but as members of their various oppressed “identities”, which identities exist both within and outside of the United States. So they actually have a basis for unity on this point, that there shouldn’t be any restrictions on people coming to live in the United States. This is what we’re up against.


44 posted on 10/24/2018 1:20:56 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: P-Marlowe
Send all 6 billion people to New York City. Then build a wall around it.

Then declare it its own country with the UN residing there and no USofA welfare (think Singapore but worse). FYI: We keep the Statue of Liberty!

45 posted on 10/24/2018 1:21:35 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I agree with your points except I have never looked upon the Never Trumpers as hard-core capitalists. I always thought they were the squishy middle between capitalists and socialists, the ones always willing to compromise with leftists anytime the leftists raised a “heart-wrenching” story to support their socialism.


46 posted on 10/24/2018 1:27:11 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

Politically that’s probably true, they don’t have the stomachs to fight the left and so will roll over on anything. But I think ideologically, they are actually more capitalist than Trump, the Paul Ryan/Mitt Romney types want to roll back entitlements, oppose tariffs, etc., immigration fits into that. They’re not interested in protecting U.S. workers from any kind of competition, but in their world, immigrants having gotten themselves here however would not have a right to anything other than to work, with the social safety net having already been eviscerated.


47 posted on 10/24/2018 1:35:16 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s also the problem of language.

I can read Spanish fairly well, but my speaking ability in it is poor, and my hearing comprehension of it is awful.

Even my neighbor, who is happy to chat with Spanish speaking workers, has understanding problems when traveling in Mexico.

I can’t make a living in Spain, or Mexico.

The legal ability to work in Spain or France or Germany is of no value to me since my Spanish, French and German is of no substantial economic value.

Why should I even partially trade the ability to get a job in the USA for the ability to get a job in say Honduras?

This is a democracy. Most Americans have less language skills than I do, so US jobs for US citizens will be the general rule.

Since employment restrictions are necessary upon foreigners, so will residency restrictions be necessary.

It’s a matter of economic survival for the voters of the USA.


48 posted on 10/24/2018 1:39:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Korea”

South Korea is even a better example.

The war-battered Third World country of 1953 built itself into a first class economic nation by the 1990’s.


49 posted on 10/24/2018 1:44:19 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the article:

“Why is there no right to live where you please?”

I want to live in Bill Gates house. Is that okay?


50 posted on 10/24/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by suthener (E)
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another bra size IQ heard from...
52 posted on 10/24/2018 4:12:45 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: redairdog

One more thing....

The global WOT is not over…and American involvement in the fight is continuing. Until/unless that is resolved, we need an absolute moratorium on immigration. PERIOD

Liberals love making an emotional issue out of it. However, immigration is really about:

• US national security
• The US economy
• US sovereignty
• US current and continuing social equilibrium
• Americans’ health care costs

But, to be honest, this list could be endless


53 posted on 10/25/2018 5:11:17 AM PDT by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Supply the illegals with tents and tell them they can camp on the Malibu beaches in front of the mansions of the rich and famous.


55 posted on 10/25/2018 7:59:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625

And the latrine is wherever you want it to be....


56 posted on 10/25/2018 2:35:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Ohioan

I think people often forget that the freedom to associate necessarily includes the freedom not to associate.....

and you are so right. most of what liberals say is best understood as things that small children might say.


57 posted on 10/26/2018 8:05:37 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

The Left seeks to destroy the “right not to associate.” You cannot build a “new world order” in a world where people have the free choice as to with whom they will associate. The right to not associate is absolutely essential to any free society.


58 posted on 10/26/2018 8:21:46 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

well said


59 posted on 10/29/2018 9:37:10 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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