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Why I’m Not Worried About White Folk Posing A Significant Obstacle To Black Liberation.
Thy Black Man ^ | October 24, 2018 | Dr. James Thomas Jones III

Posted on 10/27/2018 5:51:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Black America went the way of the wisdom of Frederick Douglas, the USA would have turned out a much greater country. As it turns out, America is on the verge of implosion.


21 posted on 10/27/2018 7:32:13 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He didn’t comprehend that this assertion means that the onus was on modern-day race men and race women to build independent black educational institutions.."

This statement seems only to allow racism to proceed, segregation wise.

22 posted on 10/27/2018 7:34:01 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (mongrel at large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If black aren’t liberated by now, and they have been for decades, they should just bag it. This “victim” status is only going to carry their lazy butts for so long, and I am done with it.


23 posted on 10/27/2018 7:36:29 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: sphinx

“Some things only change in generational terms.”


There’s a reason why the Jews wandered the desert for 40 years, time enough for everyone not a child in Egypt to die: because they carried the slave mentality with them and were incapable of escaping it. If God knew this about the human nature that He created within us, perhaps we should learn from the experience. Thus, while it was only logical the the pre-Civil Rights Act black leaders would continue as black leaders, so was it also only logical that true progress could only come after they passed from the scene. Note that many are still here...but they’re in their 70s and fading away. Progress will be coming soon.


24 posted on 10/27/2018 7:39:47 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: sphinx
White people want black America to succeed. White people are quite happy, by and large, to live and let live. Capitalism and free markets are not zero sum games. White people do get tired of constantly being taxed to subsidize other peoples' failures, but black leaders who have moved beyond racial shakedown politics will find no shortage of white allies.

YES. Just as we want ALL Americans to succeed... as you say, capitalism's not a zero sum game...

25 posted on 10/27/2018 8:28:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want dead children & VIOLENCE at the border... for their "Kent State" photo op...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real joy slavery they are in chains is for the democraps. As long as they don’t care about results, they will always be in chains! I have yet to find out what laws are oppressing da Bruthas that they think they should get a pass on?


26 posted on 10/27/2018 8:33:58 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-amputee)
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To: Yardstick

Only that you are correct.


27 posted on 10/27/2018 10:00:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I remember correctly, the “liberation of Blacks” in Zimbabwe didn’t work out so well.

Blacks weren’t capable of sustaining themselves by simply knowing how to FARM, for God’s sake.

How about: LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP.

I respectfully suggest that you consider your own survival when wanting to rule, stupid jerks.


28 posted on 10/27/2018 10:27:33 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Rurudyne

White Priviledge... is the new buzz word to silence anyone who is not of color....it means shut up because you are not a member of a minority group....or... reverse racisim of the highest order.....All of which began in Universities and their policies of the radical left. (The faculty of Education)

They create today their own victimhood (superiority) regardless of the facts.


29 posted on 10/28/2018 1:16:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He seems....conflicted.....


30 posted on 10/28/2018 3:35:05 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He could have probably made his entire argument in two simple sentences, but I think i agree with him. 1. If you face a problem, don’t waste energy focusing on those who oppose you, move forward immediately on actions that lead to a solution, starting with building a team of like minded people. 2. The people who will be part of a successful team are the doers, not the talkers, and they will have the skill sets that lead to success.


31 posted on 10/28/2018 5:23:46 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author sees white folks as opponents, when it is the left that is blacks’ and everyone else’s opponents. He’s still in the black vs white mode when truly it is good vs evil.


32 posted on 10/28/2018 7:11:05 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: caww

White privilege is how a so-called progressive living in a McMansion in surburban Chicago ... or a THREE room flat in NYC ... would describe a white farmers living in the Dust Bowl.


33 posted on 10/28/2018 7:54:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: sphinx
White people are not "opponents" of black liberation. White people want black America to succeed.

But admitting that would imply that the cause of black failure might have something to do with black behavior, and inadequate striving to succeed. That is an intolerable idea.

34 posted on 10/28/2018 8:00:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625

There are plenty of black people who understand this, and some of them do speak out. Part of the problem is a mostly white, left-liberal media that is consumed with white liberal guilt and virtue signaling. The dominant media selectively promotes black voices that preach the lie. Another problem is cooptation, as competent black professional and business people can’t help but see the enormous career and financial advantages that attach to playing the victim card — not to mention the savage criticism levelled at black leaders who don’t toe the party line. It’s a nasty problem, but it’s also an emperor has no clothes situation. On my optimistic days, I think the whole vast structure of institutionalized racial grievance politics will crumble faster than the Soviet empire in Eastern Europe, once the right leader emerges. This is a real opportunity there for the taking. But that leader needs to come from within the black community.


35 posted on 10/28/2018 8:22:50 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Olog-hai
Regards whites as “opponents”. Frederick Douglass did not think that way.

Here's the sentence: "...the bourgeoning [sic] revolutionary standing in front of me failed to see the wisdom in ignoring one’s opponents and dedicating oneself to a proactive regimen."

I didn't read it as an attack upon all whites; but rather as a matter-of-fact acknowledgment that some blacks will experience opposition from some whites, to one degree or another, and the young person should look past it to his or her own goals and how to get there, obstacles notwithstanding.

What really struck me was the perception that there is no equal opportunity. I've had black friends tell me this in a different way: that all white people have it easy compared to them. Neither one is the reality.

Marxist/collectivist propaganda removes individual initiative from young people, first by insisting that they are powerless except for violent overthrow (and thus why bother to delay gratification in order to take effective long-range action); and secondly that they must not see other people as individuals—some of whom are a**h***s, but many of whom are open, tolerant, friendly and helpful, regardless of background.

36 posted on 10/28/2018 10:53:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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To: antidemoncrat
I’d like to know how many billions of dollars white folks have contributed to minorities in the Republic to help lift them out of poverty.

I heard an estimate during the run-up to the presidential campaigns of '15-'16 to the tune of $20 trillion dollars, which coincidentally was the same number as the national debt. I don't know how true it was; presumably one adds up all the welfare programs, head start, food stamps and so forth alloted to blacks since the Civil Rights legislation of 1964 and one arrives at a very large number. And that's not counting the lost contributions by a people convince they could not succeed and should not try.

That said, I realize that racial prejudice was then and still is to a degree a real thing and a daunting thing. I experienced workplace sex discrimination myself as a white woman, still do; and discrimination and harassment are real and do greatly narrow the lifetime earning capacity of too many Americans, even though things have gotten better over time. Nevertheless, you have to start somewhere and do the best you can in your years of adulthood, no excuses. If you can't support a spouse or children, don't bring them into the picture.

The big fight between capitalism and communism is that there are losers in capitalism; however, in communism, everyone loses, everyone lives below potential. Which is better? I know what I choose, even having suffered the back of the hand so many times. With capitalism, most of the time there is still hope—of a brighter day and a second chance.

37 posted on 10/28/2018 11:07:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh, okay then :) I thought you were going somewhere else with the question.


38 posted on 10/29/2018 9:42:14 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

No problem FRiend!


39 posted on 10/29/2018 12:14:22 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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