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Are you happy now, Trump supporters?
The Washington Post ^ | October 14, 2019 | Max Boot, Neocon & #NeverTrump-er

Posted on 10/14/2019 7:52:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

F Max Boot, Bill Krystal, George Will and all the other anti-Trump a$$holes who pose as conservatives but worship the state the same as Democrats. The only time I read their drivel is something like this and I know what it’s going to say before I read it. I hope they all go broke. shut up and go away.


21 posted on 10/14/2019 7:58:54 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As I understand..the Syrian Kurds are PKK. The communist wing of the region. They actually hold brainwashing sessions for their fighters to indoctrinate them into the PKK.

So F*&k all you national socialistic news media who have taken those same lessons from the chief propagandist-Joe Goebbels.

22 posted on 10/14/2019 7:59:28 AM PDT by crz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mad Max would rather have a radical Leftist Democrat as POTUS.


23 posted on 10/14/2019 7:59:39 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: GMMC0987

Absolutely it was. And the Soviets were still supplying the NVA.


24 posted on 10/14/2019 7:59:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes very. We should of NEVER been in Libya or Syria. There was NO vital US interest involved. Trump is cleaning up the messes 30 years of Globalist “Perpetual War” Lobby and the last 4 Presidents created.


25 posted on 10/14/2019 7:59:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I sure am happy.


26 posted on 10/14/2019 7:59:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a PR disaster. Could have been handled differently.


27 posted on 10/14/2019 8:00:27 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interminably happy. Thanks for asking.


28 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:04 AM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: TTFlyer

Yes, but, I decided that “fah q” works as well. :-)


29 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:06 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never met a Kurd. Never met a Syrian, for that matter. Never been to Syria, Kurdistan, wherever. Don’t care. Not my problem.


30 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:08 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the hysterics, I’m guessing Trump smartly dodged a trap.


31 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: from occupied ga

It sure seems all of these never trumpet conservatives (let’s remember se cupp too) really just go to bed each night dreaming about how they can be a “reasonable” panelist on some filthy commie media platform.


32 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:13 AM PDT by BRL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts.

Really Max? What is your plan to have made it an in & out operation? Yeah I didn't think so, it would have been exactly what the same here. You f'in moron. To answer your question, yes we are still happy. Now STFU idiot.

33 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:28 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m happy. Not going to war with Turkey just strikes me as a pretty common sense decision.


34 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has Cindy Sheehan offered positive comment about Trump?


35 posted on 10/14/2019 8:01:55 AM PDT by AU72
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remind me again why Obama (Nobel Peace Prize) attacked Libya, even after they had surrendered their nuclear and chemical weapons programs to the US, making them defenseless against a determined attack. Why there is any special calling for making war where there is no compelling need, from the US standpoint


36 posted on 10/14/2019 8:02:08 AM PDT by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You just can’t win with these dinks. A why even bother trying.


37 posted on 10/14/2019 8:02:08 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You betcha.

38 posted on 10/14/2019 8:02:28 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rrrod
This is a PR disaster.

How so? Because people who hate Trump say it is? Who in Trump's MAGA coalition gives two sh*ts about the Kurds?

39 posted on 10/14/2019 8:02:35 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Trump strategy is to let the fire burn and maybe it will burn itself out.


40 posted on 10/14/2019 8:02:37 AM PDT by jetson
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