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The Supreme Court Denied the Appeal of a Cop Who Fatally Shot a 13-Year-Old Carrying a Toy Gun
teenvogue ^ | JUNE 26, 2018 | KAYLEN RALPH

Posted on 04/29/2021 10:07:28 PM PDT by Rabin

Petitioners seek review of the decision of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals arising out of Deputy Gelhaus’ fatal shooting of 13 year-old Andy Lopez, who was carrying a toy replica automatic rifle by its grip. At all times, the toy rifle was pointed towards the ground, with Lopez’s hand on the grip, away from the trigger. Deputy Gelhaus shot at Lopez eight times, hitting him seven times, from approximately 62 feet. The question presented is whether there is qualified immunity for a police officer who shoots a 13-yearold boy seven times, particularly where there is evidence that the first shot may have disabled the youth by striking the upper arm of the hand holding the replica rifle’s grip. Assuming that evidence is credited, as it must be, does qualified immunity apply to the next six shots? Lopez was casually walking mid-afternoon near a city street. Deputies Gelhaus and Schemmel, on routine patrol, saw Lopez. The deputies were not responding to a call of criminal conduct or suspicious activity. They had no reason to think Lopez was a gang member or that he was engaged in criminal activity, except that he was holding, in his left hand, the grip of what appeared to be an assault rifle, pointed towards the ground. Lopez did not attempt to evade the deputies and nothing about his conduct was suspicious. Lopez was just walking along, minding his own business.

(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: andylopez; banglist; california; erickgelhaus; police; scotus; toy; toygun
https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/articles/fbi-no-civil-rights-violations-in-calif-shooting-of-teen-carrying-replica-ak-47-pK15Uq1CC5WPpyVl/

FBI: No civil rights violations in Calif. shooting of teen carrying replica AK-47

Go Figure. Rab

1 posted on 04/29/2021 10:07:28 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

What is that?

https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/articles/fbi-no-civil-rights-violations-in-calif-shooting-of-teen-carrying-replica-ak-47-pK15Uq1CC5WPpyVl/


2 posted on 04/29/2021 10:16:20 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Rabin

From: “Teen Vogue?
Really?
Why would you read crap like that?
Or think that I should?
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Control your input!


3 posted on 04/29/2021 10:29:42 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Rabin

libs are torn

hate cops

hate evil assault rifles


4 posted on 04/29/2021 11:47:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rabin
"At all times, the toy rifle was pointed towards the ground, with Lopez’s hand on the grip, away from the trigger."

That's one side of the story. There are claims to the contrary in other articles like the one linked in comment #2 (The Press Democrat, McClatchy-Tribune News Service, maybe one of the publications forbidding posts here, don't remember for sure).

5 posted on 04/30/2021 1:29:31 AM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: Rabin

What about the teen in Georgia who answered his own door with a Wii in his hand and was shot dead by a female officer. And that was found to be perfectly fine.


6 posted on 04/30/2021 1:32:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Repeal The 17th

Teen Vogue has had better days in the investigative journalism game. Tiger Beat seems to be picking up the slack at least.


7 posted on 04/30/2021 2:11:46 AM PDT by Sgt_Rutter
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To: Rabin

“They had no reason to think Lopez was a gang member”

LOL.


8 posted on 04/30/2021 3:40:55 AM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Rabin

Cops don’t shoot you once — you might not die, and then be able to sue them. They shoot you until you are dead, then shoot you several more times.


9 posted on 04/30/2021 4:06:19 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Rabin

There has been a profound change in the USA since I was a kid and young adult. The police did not fear for their lives at every traffic stop. Citizens didn’t hate cops and hurl curses at them.

Life in the USA is not what it was back then. People were not shot for holding a toy gun. There were no TV remotes, but dark hand-held objects were not mistaken for a gun, providing justification for the killing of the person holding the object.

There was more trust. Little hate or hostility. The thought of arresting a kid for “chewing a pop tart into a gun” was not possible.

To anyone born after the 60s, life was different, and in spite of my user name, I don’t see how it can ever come back. Tell me that I’m wrong.


10 posted on 04/30/2021 4:15:46 AM PDT by I want the USA back (American media: complicit in the destruction of this country. )
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To: I want the USA back

In the mid 60’s, kids on my block ran around with BB guns. I can’t imagine kids ever having that kind of fun again.


11 posted on 04/30/2021 5:53:25 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

We also had bb guns, hell we even shot at each other with them, playing Cowboys & Indians and Cops & Robbers, great fun. Those that didn’t have a bb gun had slingshots. Actually amazing no one ever shot an eye out, safety glasses would probably been a good idea but it never occurred to us back then. This was the 60’s. Good times.


12 posted on 04/30/2021 11:23:39 AM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: slouper

Hahaha.. Exactly! No one ever got hurt in my neighborhood, either. And, the boys were extra cautious around us girls. I miss those summer days in the 60’s. Looking back it seems more real than what we have now.


13 posted on 04/30/2021 4:44:41 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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