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Adding Scat to the Missing Persons Identification
Forensic Magazine ^ | February 16, 2022 | Michelle Taylor

Posted on 02/20/2022 10:59:46 PM PST by nickcarraway

On Oct. 12, 2018, 16-year-old Karlie Gusé attended a party near her home in Chalfant Valley, a dessert town near Bishop, Calif. According to her boyfriend and others at the party, Karlie smoked marijuana—which may or may not have been laced with another drug—and immediately fell ill. She began to experience intense fear and paranoia, eventually calling her stepmother to ask for a ride home.

But, at 9 p.m., Melissa Gusé found Karlie running down a street, away from the party. No one knew it then, but that was only the first of two times Karlie would run scared down a street that night. No one saw her after the second time.

Melissa has recounted to investigators, including the FBI, that Karlie disappeared from her room sometime between 6:30 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. the next morning. This is corroborated by a neighbor on the other side of the highway—about .5 miles away—who thought it was odd to see a young girl out his way so early in the morning. He even noted that she only had on a T-shirt and sweatpants, despite it being 40˚ F the prior night.

After being calling in as a private investigator, Paul Dostie, retired Mammoth Lakes Police Department sergeant, is positive he knows not only what happened to Karlie, but that the scat of coyotes dominant in the area prove his theory correct.

The Quantum Oscillator

Just as Dostie began training his black lab Buster as an avalanche rescue dog, he realized there was even more he could do—and it tied nicely into his previous work as a sergeant at the Mammoth Lakes Police Department. From there, Dostie trained Buster, and later Bosco, to be Human Remains Detection dogs capable of sniffing out human decomposition, blood and DNA at the parts-per-trillion (ppt) level.

Dostie began working with History Flight, a non-profit that sends search and recovery teams around the world to investigate, locate and recover missing U.S. military personnel. After an incredibly successful recovery rate, Dostie started to be called in as a third-party for unsolved/missing persons cases, including high-profile ones like the Kristin Smart case and the Tate murders linked to Charles Manson.

In these cases and others, Dostie often teams up with Arpad Vass, a biochemist by training who received his Ph.D. in forensic anthropology from the University of Tennessee and was a senior research scientist at Oak Ridge National Lab for 23 years.

Vass is the brains behind the patented “Quantum Oscillator.” As Vass describes it, the handheld instrument isolates and amplifies the natural vibrational frequency of virtually any object or material. This frequency is then directed outward into the environment using a directional antenna. When it encounters an object with a similar frequency, it excites the molecules in that object in a manner similar to how a pulsed laser can excite objects. The “artificially excited” molecules then begin vibrating at a slightly higher state and at a slightly higher frequency. This frequency, emitted from the object, is then picked up by a receiving antenna in the Quantum Oscillator.

Since the frequency emitted and the frequency received are slightly different, an electromagnetic field between the two antennae helps compensate for this offset in frequencies. As the two frequencies attempt to align, the Quantum Oscillator sets up a standing wave oscillation, which indicates the positive detection of the object that is being hunted.

“Because this technology uses unique resonance frequencies, I am able to search for specific individuals—both live and deceased,” explained Vass in a statement to Forensic. “To accomplish this, I use familial keratin DNA for these types of searches.”

About two months after Karlie’s disappearance, Vass and Dostie placed three of her baby teeth into the Quantum Oscillator. Starting on the street where her house was, the instrument pushed them across the highway and past the neighbors house where Karlie was last seen.

Navigating through the bushes, rather than the dirt road, Vass and Dostie eventually found a blood trail a little more than half a mile from Karlie’s point last seen. In fact, the Quantum Oscillator was signaling areas up to 3 miles away from the blood trail, and K9 Bosco was “alerting” Dostie often.

Still searching a week later, Dostie found a pair of underwear—with animal bites taken out of it—on a bush about 3 miles away from the blood trail.

“I brought the dog up and from 10 feet away, boom,” recalled Dostie to Forensic. “There’s so much decomp there in the soil beneath the bush. Immediately, we started looking for scat with the volunteer search party. First one I have the dog check, negative. Second one, from 3 feet away, Bosco alerts. And I go, ‘I know what happened to Karlie.’”

When the volunteers encountered scat with what they thought were human bones, Dostie called the Mono County Sheriff’s Office. They took samples and investigated but ultimately announced the evidence was not related to Karlie’s disappearance.

Dostie didn’t believe that. He had used scat previously to prove, in court, that a person was no long alive. So, the scat search parties continued. Volunteers bagged the coyote scat and GPS’ed it. Bosco alerted on 40% of all the scat collected from the 3-mile-wide search area.

“Studies by the FBI say it is 2-mile search area for animal disarticulation, and this is what we found as well,” said Dostie. “That’s a 4-mile circumference.”

Volunteers with drones also offered to join the search party. Two drones flew over the area low and slow, programmed to image every inch. All that data was sent to a photo-interpreter, who did identify a bone. However, it turned out to be a rabbit bone.

“But, the technology is obviously powerful,” said Dostie. “What they are doing is incredible. This is going to have repercussions, in a good way, when working on cases where there is animal disarticulation.”

Advanced analysis

Working with a spectroscopist he met during the Kristin Smart case, Dostie sent scat samples to be analyzed by gas chromatography mass spectrometer. According to Vass, the results indicated the presence of specific human decomposition chemical compounds.

Forging onward, Vass used his Quantum Oscillator and got a hit on some of the scat, finding four small bone chips in the feces. He employed laser induced breakdown spectroscopy (LIBS) to confirm the bones belonged to a human Caucasian.

Seeking even more detailed information, Dostie teamed up with Elena Zavala, an evolutionary geneticist who received her Ph.D. from Max-Planck-Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology. Her newly published thesis focuses on employing methods from ancient DNA to improve the success rate of forensic identification.

Zavala attempted to get DNA out of the soil beneath where the underwear was located, but was unsuccessful. So, on Jan. 31, Dostie sent scat samples to Intermountain Forensics—the lab that is trying to extract DNA from bones of possible victims of the Tulsa Race Massacre—to see if human DNA is present.

If the results come back positive, Dostie said he will try to raise funds for DNA extraction again to possibly tie the samples to Karlie.

“Who else can it be?,” Dostie remarked.

Regardless of how Karlie’s case concludes, or doesn’t conclude, Dostie is proud of what his team has accomplished thus far and sees it as a turning point in missing persons investigations.

“When you put all this technology together—mass spectroscopy, LIBS, drones, and possibly getting DNA from the soil where the underwear was, that’s huge,” the retired sergeant said. “I think it’s really going to change search and rescue because you’re walking on top of evidence of where someone is. There different specialties blend really well together.”


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: carnivores; coyotes; crime; darwinawards; dopefiends; feces; forensics; humanremains; lawenforcement; poop; scat; scavengers; victimless
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1 posted on 02/20/2022 10:59:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: fieldmarshaldj

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2 posted on 02/20/2022 11:06:10 PM PST by Impy ("We didn't steal the election, we swear!!!" - Sincerely, The Election Thieves )
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To: nickcarraway

Scat in my world is poop.


3 posted on 02/20/2022 11:09:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: Osage Orange

In their world too. They’re checking coyote crap.


4 posted on 02/20/2022 11:29:23 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Lot’s of people that I know eliminate youts....


5 posted on 02/20/2022 11:41:07 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: nickcarraway

My sister had a dog and you could pick up a rock from the creek bed and toss it into the creek and it would fetch that same rock!

But even more amazing is that Quantum Oscillitor thing-a-ma-jig. Hard to believe something like that actually works.


6 posted on 02/20/2022 11:42:10 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve
But even more amazing is that Quantum Oscillitor [sic! should be: Oscillator] thing-a-ma-jig. Hard to believe something like that actually works.Yeah, color me skeptical!

(Admittedly, the hyped-up layman's description proffered by the article is so vague, and is probably a gross distortion of the truth, to boot, but...)

Also: The article doesn't concede that, when you have any tech or method capable of detecting ppt (parts per trillion), you're going to have it going "Ping!" literally everywhere you look.

Regards,

7 posted on 02/21/2022 12:23:47 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: nickcarraway

Poor girl.


8 posted on 02/21/2022 12:43:05 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: alexander_busek

Something does seem fishy. Is the investigator saying that he is pinging on something with vibrational frequencies of Karlie’s teeth? Could be be pinging on his own or someone walking within the field of the electrical signal.
It would seem odd that they haven’t tested the technology on let’s say a chicken bone?
Easy to do. Eat a chicken. Save some bones for the oscillator, put some bones out in the open fields in a known position, come back in a few days and find them using the technology. He needs benchmarks to prove his technology.


9 posted on 02/21/2022 2:24:30 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sorry, but this Quantum Oscillator thing sounds like bogus technology. I’d really like to hear more about it before I accept that it works.


10 posted on 02/21/2022 2:38:25 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: Getready

Yeah, exactly! Get a bucket of KFC. Eat half a drumstick, and bury the other half in a huge field. Challenge Dr. Vass to find the chicken bone.


11 posted on 02/21/2022 2:39:38 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Sure sounds like one of those stupid ghost detectors as seen on TV.


12 posted on 02/21/2022 3:01:28 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: dinodino; Getready; 21twelve
I’m sorry, but this Quantum Oscillator thing sounds like bogus technology. I’d really like to hear more about it before I accept that it works.

The description is so vague as to be virtually unfalsifiable. The article leans heavily on the "wowie!" factor. The parallel use of sniffer dogs compounds the problem of verifying it. And the buzzword "quantum" (anywhere outside of a laboratory, where you can achieve a near-perfect vacuum and vibration-free environment) seals the deal for me.

Everything here leads me to believe that this "technology" is completely bogus. Might as well call it an "Ectoplasmic Oscillator!"

Regards,

13 posted on 02/21/2022 3:06:15 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

ping


14 posted on 02/21/2022 4:02:39 AM PST by null and void (Sometimes I think all I'm ever doing is trying to convince myself I'm climbing in the trees)
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To: dinodino

It sounds to me like send us money.


15 posted on 02/21/2022 4:36:35 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: nickcarraway

What pops up as key to me is the one factor shared in all 3 possible death scenarios is Drug use:
1. Coyotes might have eaten her, but if she ran off it was because of paranoia caused by laced marijuana (or not)
2. A licensed psychiatrist said her step mom showed constant eye shifts when explaining her story on Dr Phil..sign of lying. Yet if the step mom did kill her she came back from the party high—which would have impacted the situation somehow.
3. An unknown assailant, again if she was kidnapped it was after attending a party with rampant drug use and being under their effects

I’m just amazed at our political classes continual avoidance of this national problem and I think it’s partly because it’s tied in with Border security. Fentanyl/heroine is now I believe the or one of the main causes of deaths for 18-25 year olds and it almost all comes across the border. Now it’s even starting to kill kids:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/health/fentanyl-fatal-overdoses-middle-schoolers/index.html

Drug overdoses kill WAY more young than COVID …which they close schools for but won’t close the border for drug flow:

https://gregmurphy.house.gov/media/press-releases/murphy-fentanyl-killing-more-young-americans-covid-19

PS this device sounds like a snake oil type invention


16 posted on 02/21/2022 4:40:58 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: nickcarraway

Walking our dog this morning, I spotted a hawk feasting on a squirrel on the ground in the neighbor’s front yard. The squirrel was not dead yet. My dog spooked the hawk and it floated up to an overhead limb. It soon dropped back down to continue breakfast.

Nature can be gruesome...but filling.


17 posted on 02/21/2022 6:18:28 AM PST by moovova
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To: nickcarraway

“Chalfant Valley, a dessert town near Bishop, Calif.”

Do cherries jubilee fill the streets?


18 posted on 02/21/2022 6:26:09 AM PST by No Party Affiliation
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping. Interesting.


19 posted on 02/21/2022 9:49:44 AM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: nickcarraway
Vass is the brains behind the patented “Quantum Oscillator.”

Just a note, but "patented" does NOT mean it works as advertised, or at all. The patent office does not do such tests. In brief, if they cannot prove that the invention is known or obvious from prior art, they must grant the patent. (Further, there are non-technical design patents, where the outer appearance is protected. That still allows the patent owner to advertise with "patented".)

20 posted on 02/21/2022 10:42:21 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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