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Vancouver company announces method to compresses plasma to create clean energy technology - a day after California scientists announced breakthrough with lasers
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 12/14/2022 3:24:49 PM PST by algore

California scientists announced a breakthrough that could commercialize nuclear fusion in a few decades, but a Vancouver-based company has a method that claims to power homes with the technology by the early 2030s. 

Unlike at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, which used lasers to achieve net gain energy, General Fusion compresses hydrogen plasma inside a large cylinder to increase density and temperature.

General Fusion's method uses high-powered pistons to squeeze liquid metal around the plasma to build pressure until the mixture hits 180 million degrees Fahrenheit - and fusion occurs.

The firm says it plans to have its first commercial power plant online by the early 2030s, but is targeting 2027 to demonstrate fusion on a power plant level.

MTF uses magnetic fields to slow down plasma losses and inertial compression to heat the plasma.

The unique process starts with injecting hydrogen plasma into a vessel lined with liquid metal. 

Then, pistons are activated to compress the liquid metal around the plasma, squeezing and building pressure until the plasma reaches the optimal temperature for creating fusion.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: canada; fusion; generalfusion; popularscience; vancouver
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In ten years, when have I heard that before ?
1 posted on 12/14/2022 3:24:49 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

180 million degrees? This, I gotta see.


2 posted on 12/14/2022 3:30:05 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: algore

LLL`s fusion uses only one building 3 football fields long.
Perfect for your average home.


3 posted on 12/14/2022 3:30:12 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (t)
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To: algore

The question to ask is why are they making these claims now? Perhaps to lower resistance to the Green New Deal. There has to be a reason, and it’s not that it’s going to ever see the light of day.


4 posted on 12/14/2022 3:32:34 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 11 degrees, brrrr!)
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>>with the technology by the early 2030’s

The WEF Great Reset is scheduled for 2030, so there is that.

5 posted on 12/14/2022 3:33:15 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: BobL
The question to ask is why are they making these claims now?

Once Method X is shown to be viable, it reduces incentives to fund research into Y and Z, unless those are seen as equally viable.

6 posted on 12/14/2022 3:36:43 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: crusty old prospector

What happened to room temperature (cold) fusion?


7 posted on 12/14/2022 3:37:45 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: BobL

The aliens are returning soon. The Canadians want it make money on their hidden technology before the free energy deal is made with the returning race.


8 posted on 12/14/2022 3:39:25 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: BobL
The question to ask is why are they making these claims now?

Money,money, money, money... for both claims.

The General Fusion claim is considerably less persuasive.

9 posted on 12/14/2022 3:40:37 PM PST by marktwain
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To: algore

Missouri resident, just do it. I’ll believe it when power flows to my home from it.


10 posted on 12/14/2022 3:40:46 PM PST by Fungi
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To: algore

Charlatans and snake oil salesmen rear their heads when the world needs hope. They distract from what really works. You can witness the same thing with all the pill popping ads on TV. Have your fruits and veggies in pills appeals to the hopeless fat and lazy. The same forces are at play with alternative energy. It’s getting to the point that many people see today’s alternative energy doesn’t work, so something new is required to give hope. Guess what works. Coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear and hydro. If you’re popping pills because you’re fat and lazy, get off your fat ass, eat real fruits and veggies, and move your body. That’s proven to work. No hope required.


11 posted on 12/14/2022 3:42:52 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: crusty old prospector

If something goes wrong at 180 million degrees the only thing you will see is a flash of light and it’ll be all over.


12 posted on 12/14/2022 3:44:38 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: ConservativeInPA

I believe we could scale up the drinking bird for limitless energy.


13 posted on 12/14/2022 3:45:48 PM PST by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Like globull warming, you go where the grant money is. 180 million degrees versus 72.


14 posted on 12/14/2022 3:46:54 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: ConservativeInPA

Have you been watching The Grit Channel with me? I need me some Omega whatever fish oil pills so I can walk from the toilet to my lazyboy.


15 posted on 12/14/2022 3:49:01 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: marktwain

I kind of like this: https://www.quaise.energy/

Very deep, very hot geothermal. The idea is to dig the wells using high power microwave energy since regular drills will not work. Drill these near to thing like steam powered coal power plants to replace the use of coal.

Whether this is feasible I don’t know. In theory it should work nicely, just an issue of making the deep holes. At any rate, I think some scheme like this will be the solution - not fusion, not wind, not solar.


16 posted on 12/14/2022 3:49:34 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: algore
Looking for suckers "investors".

17 posted on 12/14/2022 3:51:20 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: crusty old prospector
well I saw this liquid metal movie a while ago


18 posted on 12/14/2022 3:53:12 PM PST by xp38
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To: algore

"One hundred eighty million degrees. Centigrade."

19 posted on 12/14/2022 3:57:32 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Very deep, very hot geothermal.

But, that'll cool the iron core, allowing it to solidify. That'll simultaneously collapse earth's magnetic field, and act like a giant brake shoe, stopping earth's rotation: we'll all fly off into space!


20 posted on 12/14/2022 3:59:39 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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