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Bezos beats Musk to Mars milestone: NASA chooses Blue Origin's rocket to launch a mission to the Red Planet in 2024
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Posted on 11/22/2023 6:48:03 PM PST by algore

Elon Musk once branded Jeff Bezos a 'dilettante' of space exploration, but the Blue Origin founder is poised to beat SpaceX to Mars.

NASA announced Wednesday that it will send two scientific spacecraft to the Red Planet aboard the first Blue Origin New Glenn rocket in August 2024 - a contract that costs $20 million.

Musk's SpaceX company was initially set to carry the NASA payload on a Falcon Heavy rocket in October of this year, alongside NASA's Psyche mission, which was bound for an asteroid.

However, the space agency pulled the additional crafts from the launch because the Falcon Heavy would not put them on the proper trajectory to insert them into Mars' orbit.

The new timeline announcement comes shortly after Musk's Starship rocket - the ship he wants to use to ferry crews to the moon and eventually Mars - blew up in a second launch attempt.

An identical pair of spacecraft making up NASA's Escape and Plasma Acceleration and Dynamics Explorer (ESCAPADE) mission will hitch a ride on the unproven Blue Origin New Glenn rocket, each carrying three experiments to investigate the effects of solar winds on the planet's magnetosphere.

This launch is part of a broader NASA effort to use private contractors to get to Mars more cheaply.

The US space agency has made a habit of swinging by our planetary neighbor to drop off orbiters, landers, and rovers, most recently in 2020 with the Perseverance rover and Ingenuity helicopter.

NASA's decision is the latest chapter in the billionaire space race between Musk and Bezos, which earlier this year saw each company win separate multibillion-dollar contracts with NASA to go to the moon.

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KEYWORDS: applyforwelfare; bezos; blueorigin; donatefreerepublic; mars; nasa; spacex
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To: telescope115
Has Bezos even put a rocket in orbit?

Now ... Blue Origin has so far only managed to launch a manned giant phallus into a very suborbital trajectory.

21 posted on 11/22/2023 7:20:06 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

The government is insane. This is a CROOKED politically motivated procurement.

Compare BlueOrigin with NOTHING accomplished yet versus SpaceX:

SpaceX 288 TOTAL launches since inception (5x Falcon 1, 275x Falcon 9, 8x Falcon Heavy)

SpaceX Landing Attempts Total
259 (Total) – 206 (droneship), 53 (land)
Successful Landings Total
248 (Total) – 196 (droneship), 52 (land)
Most Landing Successes in a Row - 174 (current streak which began after Starlink v1-19)
Overall Landing Success Rate:
95.75% (Overall)
33.3% (2015)
62.5% (2016)
100% (2017)
85.7% (2018)
93.75% (2019)
92% (2020)
96.77% (2021)
100% (2022)
100% (2023)

2023
81 Falcon 9
4 Falcon Heavy
2 Starships
87 landings (100% success)
Launch rate: 3.81 days
Manned flights: Likely four but maybe even five or six

2022
60 Falcon 9 (100% success)
1 Falcon Heavy (100% success)
32 of these were for Starlink satellites
60 Landings (100% success)
Launched 1,722 Starlink satellites into orbit, over a third of all Starlink satellites launched since the first in 2019
First national security launch for the National Reconnaissance Office
Launched three crewed missions to ISS


22 posted on 11/22/2023 7:31:22 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

“ This is just the Biden regime rewarding one of its faithful donors.”
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Yep, just as the Biden regime’s decision to build the new FBI headquarters in Maryland was a political decision. Neither of these decisions are in America’s best interest… quite the contrary.


23 posted on 11/22/2023 7:33:12 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAo prou)
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To: Jonty30
The US government is paying for free Amazon Prime membership for people who are on SSI and a host of other low income programs.

Doesn't that give you a nice warm feeling inside?

24 posted on 11/22/2023 7:34:28 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: algore

Bezos has not even got his “new glenn” rocket to the launch pad to even test anything. And nasa wants to launch on it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣


25 posted on 11/22/2023 7:46:28 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: algore

Blue Origin, by itself, will probably never get to buy a Mars Candy Bar. Bezos is trying to purchase an entirely different rocket company, United Launch Alliance (ULA). ULA has a proven launch record. I can just see Bezos slapping a Blue Origin label on the ULA rockets and calling Blue Origin a success.

Bezos just fired the top Blue Origin exec. The just-fired exec spent 4 years launching nothing while SpaceX has more launches than most countries combined. SpaceX has not just proven reusability, they have mastered it.

To demonstrate the success and cost efficiency of SpaceX, the European Space Alliance (ESA) has contracted 4 satellite launches with SpaceX. Not Blue Origin, SpaceX. ESA is so mired in bureaucracy, they cannot launch their own rockets and satellites.

The only thing holding back SpaceX from being much further along with Starship is the Hussein/Biden Regime. Besides the FAA and the FCC, The Regime even has the Federal Fish & Wildlife Administration slowing down SpaceX. Disgusting.

In one of the most hilarious nuisance lawsuits brought by The Regime, they accused SpaceX of not hiring foreigners. Since SpaceX has very serious technology, only citizens are allowed to get near. When the suit was presented in court, the judge basically stated What The ??? and dismissed the suit.


26 posted on 11/22/2023 7:46:34 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: algore

WAPO/Bezos = CIA/Swamp outlet.


27 posted on 11/22/2023 7:52:23 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: algore

Blue Origin?
Will never happen, IMHO...


28 posted on 11/22/2023 7:58:12 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: algore

Bezos has been doing skyhops, nothing orbital.


29 posted on 11/22/2023 7:58:30 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: algore
However, the space agency pulled the additional crafts from the launch because the Falcon Heavy would not put them on the proper trajectory to insert them into Mars' orbit.

There's no later Falcon Heavy launch that might be available?

30 posted on 11/22/2023 8:05:16 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: House Atreides
Yup, just like Bill Clinton's decision to reward John Glenn with a trip into space on the shuttle as a reward for defending him during impeachment in the Senate.

Just like Obama freezing out Houston and rewarding Schumer/Clinton and New York with a retired space shuttle.

-PJ

31 posted on 11/22/2023 8:07:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: HamiltonJay

Hahahaha...is there ANY conservative who would back Bezos in this? Musk has some qualities we really like, since basket of odd fruit to pick from him is pretty broad!


32 posted on 11/22/2023 8:08:00 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: NorthMountain

Now ... Blue Origin has so far only managed to launch a manned giant phallus into a very suborbital trajectory.
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Launchus Interruptus?


33 posted on 11/22/2023 8:08:03 PM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Terry L Smith
Bezos' only claim is that he sent Captain Kirk into space.

-PJ

34 posted on 11/22/2023 8:11:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: NorthMountain
it will send two scientific spacecraft to the Red Planet aboard the first Blue Origin New Glenn rocket in August 2024

Good luck. Tell me again about the first successful test flight of the Blue Origin New Glenn rocket?


Saw this and got to wondering what two satellites could go to Mars for 20mil. Looked it up, and sure enough, it's just a couple of smallsats. Whole thing's nothing to get excited about. Elon's Tesla Roadster probably weighed 5 times as much as those two sats.
35 posted on 11/22/2023 8:14:25 PM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"The US government is paying for free Amazon Prime membership for people who are on SSI and a host of other low income programs."

Except that...

"The US government isn't paying for free Amazon Prime membership for people who are on SSI and a host of other low income programs."

It is a private Amazon initiative and it isn't free,it's discounted.

36 posted on 11/22/2023 8:15:10 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: telescope115

To be fair, the launchus isn’t usually interruptus ... it’s just not much of a launch. It’s enough for paying tourist customers to say, truthfully, that they’ve “been in space”.


37 posted on 11/22/2023 8:21:03 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: steve86
Nope it is US government funded.

Like just about everything else with Commizon.

Their shipping for example. US taxpayer subsidized.

38 posted on 11/22/2023 8:21:19 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
It's a good thing to have multiple vendors capable of providing launch capabilities

That's typical "logistics manager" thinking, and I more than once saw it cost General Motors $$$hundreds of million$$$. Company I worked for had a fifteen year leg up on the technology, and in one case I was project manager when they finally tore out the inferior equipment and replaced it all with ours. But they taught us a lesson, by God! Oh, yes they did! By producing a recall-prone engine for two years.

39 posted on 11/22/2023 8:29:28 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: steve86

I’ve been an AMZ customer since Bezos was just selling books. Buy a tremendous amount of stuff there, therefore have PRIME free. It’s a terrific service. Just ordered a case of cat food and some Trader Joe Sweet Chili Sauce . Trader is out of it, but I thought AMZ might have some and there it was.

Perhaps you might get PRIME free if you buy enough.


40 posted on 11/22/2023 8:32:47 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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