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Jury Vets Say Emotions Can Take Over: Van Dam's Sexual Lifestyle Comes To The For Front(8-18-02)
Union Trib ^ | August 18, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 08/18/2002 12:43:52 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Jury veterans say emotions can take over

Feelings could impede addressing 'real issues'

By Kristen Green
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 18, 2002

Defense attorney Steven Feldman (R) addrressed the court regarding a motion he filed on media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at the San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanJurors have deliberated on the David Westerfield case for seven days, and still no verdict.

Commentators speculate about the reasons on every radio and television station. But only 12 people know what's going on inside the jury room, out of sight of the attorneys, the judge and the media.

Jury consultants say the panel is probably quite organized and that deliberations are taking "a little long" because it's a complicated case. The experts say the jurors probably have been methodically sifting through evidence.

But that scenario makes former jury foreman George L. McAlister laugh.

"It's not that way," said McAlister, who served as foreman in 1991 for the second trial of Elisabeth "Betty" Broderick, who killed her former husband, prominent lawyer Dan Broderick, and his bride.

McAlister's experience tells him something different is happening.

He said the jury's conversations more likely are being steered by emotions and that the panel is trying to address issues raised by one or more jurors so they can move on to "the real issues."

McAlister said his jury's deliberations soon became disorganized, despite his attempts to impose logic. First, each member gave his or her often-emotional outlook on the case. Then they took a straw poll on whether to convict the La Jolla socialite of murder or manslaughter and found themselves polarized.

"It happened pretty quickly," McAlister said.

But every foreman has a different story to tell. Paula Hannaford-Agor, a senior researcher for the Center for Jury Studies in Williamsburg, Va., said the ways jurors approach deliberations are "idiosyncratic to each jury."

She said jurors often begin by reviewing jury instructions to chart a course. Then they determine which testimony is relevant to the charges.

"They've got a lot of evidence to sort through," Hannaford-Agor said.

The jury heard eight weeks of testimony in the case against Westerfield, a design engineer accused of kidnapping and killing his 7-year-old neighbor Danielle van Dam.

How the jurors conduct deliberations also depends on the foreman's approach to problem solving.

Gene Wagner, who served as foreman on the 1999 Brandon Wilson trial in Vista Superior Court, said he put the jury instructions on the blackboard and members reviewed them section by section. Then he opened a round-table discussion.

The panel deliberated about 51/2 hours before convicting Wilson of slashing 9-year-old Matthew Cecchi's throat in an Oceanside restroom.

But in that case, "we didn't have mountains of evidence," Wagner said. The Westerfield case, he said, is more difficult because there's more circumstantial evidence and more scientific data.

"I can certainly put myself in their shoes," he said.

Wagner suspects the Westerfield jury is dealing with one or more members who disagree with the majority on the defendant's guilt or innocence.

"I would think if they didn't decide within the first two days, someone's holding out," he said. "Their perception is their reality. People in the minority tend to entrench themselves further and dig their heels in."

But since jurors haven't sent a note to the judge expressing frustration with the deliberations, they're still talking, Wagner said.

"They're not at a brick wall right now," he said.

The jury has been behind closed doors "a little long," said San Diego jury consultant Toni Blake, "but it's not extraordinarily long."

She said it's too early to assume the panel is deadlocked.

The jury has sent seven notes to the judge asking to review evidence. On Friday, the foreman sent a note asking for a read-back of testimony from Dr. Brian Blackbourne, the county medical examiner and a prosecution witness, and defense witness David Faulkner, the first insect expert to take the stand.

"If they're still asking for evidence, they're still deliberating," Blake said.

It's likely that the jury has taken several votes and is working to answer the questions of jurors in the minority, she said. If the jury were deadlocked, it would have notified the judge.

A study by the National Center for State Courts found that 6.2 percent of the cases it analyzed between 1996 and 1998 ended in deadlocked juries. And San Diego has seen a number of prominent cases end in mistrials the first time they were tried, including Broderick's.

Juries also deadlocked during the first trial of former Mayor Roger Hedgecock on charges of concealing campaign contributions and the murder trial of California Highway Patrol Officer Craig Peyer. The second juries to hear the cases returned convictions.

Hannaford-Agor, who is finishing a study of deadlocked cases for the Center for Jury Studies, said she found deliberation time has little to do with whether a jury deadlocks.

However, she found juries that vote very quickly are more likely to hang. In those cases, the judge and attorneys involved were notified early on of the impasse.

Jurors in the Westerfield case have spent more than 27 hours deliberating. She said that means they're taking their job seriously. Jury deliberations tend to take longer in more complicated cases, Blake said, particularly in capital cases.

Jurors are instructed not to consider the penalty at this point of the case, but doing so is human nature, she said.

Wagner, whose jury recommended the death penalty for Wilson, said jurors know if they convict Westerfield they'll be asked to decide whether he should be executed.

"It's hard to put someone to death," Wagner said. "It's so contrary to the way we lead our lives."

Yet even when the discussion isn't about life and death, murder-case deliberations are highly emotional.

In the second Broderick trial, the jurors split 10-2, with the majority favoring convicting her of murder, McAllister said. One of the two holdouts couldn't explain her stance, and the other folded her arms and stopped participating.

Before they compromised on two second-degree murder convictions, jurors screamed at each other, and a few cried.

"Everybody was really upset," McAlister said. "It's a very difficult, emotional situation."

McAlister says it's a job he hopes he is never called to do again and feels sorry for the Westerfield jury foreman.

"It's a nightmare to be in that situation, to have to address all those emotional issues," he said. "It's a tremendous responsibility. It's a tremendous burden."


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1 posted on 08/18/2002 12:43:53 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Politicalmom; spectre; BunnySlippers; DoughtyOne; Hillary's Lovely Legs; Snow Bunny; Alamo-Girl; ...
Ping, from the Smokey Back Room..) ) )
2 posted on 08/18/2002 12:44:26 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Even Beth Karis said last night on Whorelldo that rumors were growing in SD that "Westerfield will walk".
3 posted on 08/18/2002 12:58:07 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
bump for later read. Thanks for the ping, Fres. :o)
4 posted on 08/18/2002 1:12:00 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: FresnoDA
I'm here! (and here and here and here...)

LOL! Thanks fer the PING
5 posted on 08/18/2002 1:23:07 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: John Jamieson
Poor Beth, was she near collapse when she had to admit that?
6 posted on 08/18/2002 1:36:28 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
Bump 4 DW!
7 posted on 08/18/2002 1:53:41 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: John Jamieson
Did Beth Karas and Whorealdo have a good Liberal cry over the chance a Republican Conservative may not FRY?

Beth and Jerry can bite me.

sw

8 posted on 08/18/2002 2:00:25 PM PDT by spectre
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To: MizSterious
Yeah, but when she goes back to New York, who will she date? Poor thing can't find but one man to buy her dinner in San Diego. "Ruff, ruff"..sw
9 posted on 08/18/2002 2:03:14 PM PDT by spectre
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To: All
Will tomorrow be the day? With thanks to BVW for the inspiration, and apologies to all for any mistakes I've made in my first-ever attempt at this kind of html--here's the new, revised version of the Verdict Pool!

Update on the informal verdict pool: What's your best guess for when the verdict will come in? (actual verdict prediction optional and not recorded)

There is no "prize," but the winner(s) get to be called "winners" and have the right to say "I told you so;" we're still negotiating about "neener neener neeners."

THE LIST SO FAR

OUT OF THE RUNNING
(SORRY!)

TODAY'S LUCKY PICKS?
STILL IN THE RUNNING!


MONDAY AUGUST 12TH

Small-l-libertarian
Countess - By 4 pm
FresnoDA - Afternoon

TUESDAY AUGUST 13TH

It's Me
Pyx - Mid-afternoon

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 14TH

Mommya - 2 hours after jurors come in
Mr.Stiv - Before lunch break
MizSterious
Greg Weston
Dave in Upland - Between noon & break
Spectre - 2 pm
Basscleff - Afternoon
I.Ben Hurt - Afternoon

THURSDAY AUGUST 15TH

Shezza - Before lunch
Mrs. Liberty - Noonish
Domestice - Afternoon
JRabbit - Afternoon
Henrietta - Afternoon
is_is - Afternoon
Lauratealeaf - 2 pm
Rheo - 3 pm
ThreeYearLurker - 3 pm
Crystalk - 3:33 pm
VRWC_minion

FRIDAY AUGUST 16TH

Pinz-N-Needlez - Morning, first thing
The Other Harry - 10 a.m.
Krodg - Morning
Calawah - Before noon
Brneyedgirl - Before noon
Demsux - Noonish
Cappsmadness - Post noon
Juzcuz - 2 pm
RnMomof7 - 2 pm deadlocked 1st time
Nycgal - 3 pm
MagnoliaMS - 4 pm
Jaded - Afternoon

MONDAY AUGUST 19TH

theirjustdue - 11 am
dread78645 - Midmorning
ItsOurTimeNow - 3 pm

TUESDAY AUGUST 20TH

Lucky - 11 am
Gigi - Morning
RnMomof7 - 2:30 pm deadlocked 2nd time
A Garrett

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 21ST

Kerensky - 2 pm
John Jamieson
Ucansee2

THURSDAY AUGUST 22ND

Space Wrangler
Fnord
Droid - 2:22 pm
Alexandria - Afternoon

FRIDAY AUGUST 23RD

Moody - 11 am
bvw - Afternoon
Irgbar-man - 4:45 pm

MONDAY AUGUST 26TH

Hoosiermama - Before noon

TUESDAY AUGUST 27TH

(None)

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 28TH

L,Towm

SOMETIME IN 2004


Bulldog108

(Note: All times PDT; if this thread gets real long, you might want to send your choices via freepmail or post them on the Refugee site--often I quit reading them when they're very, very long.)

10 posted on 08/18/2002 2:28:19 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
Nice lookin' table, Miz :)
11 posted on 08/18/2002 3:04:14 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: MizSterious
btw, the time I originally placed on my Aug 22 pick was 1100 PDT. Just in case it is close to that, I want full swami honors :-)
12 posted on 08/18/2002 3:04:44 PM PDT by fnord
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To: MizSterious
Looks good. Like the colors!
13 posted on 08/18/2002 3:09:50 PM PDT by bvw
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To: fnord
I'll sure fix that, fnord! Thank you!!
14 posted on 08/18/2002 3:10:55 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
hey......


it isn't very smokey in the back room! :(
15 posted on 08/18/2002 3:20:51 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Ok, who forgot to turn on the smoke machine?

;)
16 posted on 08/18/2002 3:25:17 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
and what about the fireworks?? I want fireworks!

What about a small flame?????



anything????

:P
17 posted on 08/18/2002 3:32:35 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
We could borrow from some very old Saturday Night Live segments--"Jane, you ignorant slut!" (Anyone remember that?)
18 posted on 08/18/2002 3:48:54 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
yes, I remember......


....that shows my age, huh???

I guess everyone is all smoked out then?
19 posted on 08/18/2002 3:50:45 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: MizSterious
She sounded so sad about it.
20 posted on 08/18/2002 3:54:36 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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