Posted on 02/11/2005 2:28:24 PM PST by FreeMarket1
POLICE ROUTINELY FINGERPRINTING FOR TRAFFIC STOPS
Feb 11, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com
by Michael J. Ross
Just when you thought it was safe to venture out on the road, visit scenic Lake Michigan, and get away from prying eyes in urban centers and corporate environments, the authorities have come up with a new, intrusive twist. Police in Green Bay, Wisconsin, are now fingerprinting anyone that they pull over at a traffic stop -- even for the most minor of traffic violations. This means that, should you be stopped by the Green Bay police for having a malfunctioning brake light, playing your car stereo too loud, or any other offense that would normally receive only a citation, they could record your fingerprint immediately. The rationale (or rationalization) for this new procedure, is that the police claim to be seeing an "increasing use of false or fraudulent identification documents" (i.e., driver's licenses) during the past couple of years. They claim they want to avoid the identity theft problem that they are seeing in Milwaukee, where apparently 13 percent of all traffic violators give a false name to the arresting officer.
However, this explanation could be charged as being equally fraudulent, considering that Green Bay experiences, on average, only five such cases per year. Some residents aren't buying that story either, telling interviewers that the law enforcement authorities are going too far with this new policy, as reported in an undated article appearing on the Web site of WBAY-TV, Northeast Wisconsin's channel 2 news.
Green Bay police counter these objections by pointing out that anyone pulled over has the right to refuse being fingerprinted. But consider what small percentage of the population would want to refuse the "request" of an armed police officer, especially one who is likely about to decide what if any traffic violations to cite the citizens for. In fact, considering how nervous most people are when pulled over by the police, it's easy to imagine that the majority of the people in that situation wouldn't remember that they actually do possess that right (assuming they have heard the facts beforehand), much less exercise their right of refusal (assuming the officer even mentions it to them).
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No way, No how!
Green Bay police counter these objections by pointing out that anyone pulled over has the right to refuse being fingerprinted
Seems only those with a dirty background have anything to fear.
Plus, how world it look if a terrorist was stopped and let go because he lied about his real ID?
Screww em all, if you're dirty, go to jail and and don't pass go.
Yeah right... screw the Bill of Rights!!!!
So you support this ridiculous gross misuse of biometrics? You trust the Green Bay pigs to be honest with this information? Do you think that this fingerprinting may have other more subtle uses, and these uses would be given the green light as soon as all the hubbub has died down? I'm curious.
And for the record, my prints have been on file for decades- security clearances.
And of course the Green Bay Police, being on the front lines of the War on Terror, will also be taking DNA samples to insure that everyone they stop isn't perhaps a distant relation to any of the 19 9/11 hijackers, and to reassure the public of their dedication to the Bill of Rights, a freshly printed and laminated copy of the Constitution will be rolled into a fine tube and rammed up the azz of every person detained in a traffic stop.
Hey, I'm all for fighting terrorism and bad guys, but this is bullshirt.
Mine also! Take my picture put it on a ID card without the extra stuff they are proposing and then I have no problem.
Why not just shoot the speeders on sight. After all they are criminals.
Here is an excerpt
4th Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
You ever try to argue with a State Trooper?
I have updated my FMCDH (From My Cold Dead Hands) sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the Marxist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government and the enormous tax burden placed upon the average American to support unconstitutional programs put forth by Marxist ideology.
For anyone interested about replying to this particular post about "cop bashing"...well...wait until you're pulled over for BS and get your fingerprints taken, your breath tested after you just had ONE glass of wine at the local stop and were just driving home at the wrong place and the wrong time, and NOBODY SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF, BECAUSE YOU'VE NOT BROKEN ANY LAW AND THS POLICE ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB AND YOU ARE INNOCENT!!! JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL!...Just wait till it happens to YOU.
FMCDH(BITS)
And the rest of us? Those who object to police-state tactics?
Mine too...but not exactly for that reason...
FMCDH(BITS)
Next thing I know, I was being sued for pain & suffering, damages, etc.
Thank god I was deployed oversees at the time, and could prove it.
I got no problem with this.
BUMP, but that's the way it is. The rape of the Constitution by all three of the government bodies is almost complete, except for the $pecial intere$t group'$ final input. Any thoughts what that might be? Already have my own theory...I'll share mine if you share yours...TAG!...you're it!
FMCDH(BITS)
Comparing your situation to roadside stops for prints is quite a S T R E T C H.....
Oh well. I rest assured you will never get entangled in this crap at the other end. "patton"......yeah, I'm pretty sure he would agree with this BS.
FMCDH(BITS)
Goon State Ping
It actually took me three days in a DMV (most of it, waiting in line), to convince them that no, I was a native-born american soldier actually serving in the Pentagon, at the time.
I actually had to get the State department to verify that.
Hafer v. Melo, 502 U.S. 21 (1991) — State officers may be held personally liable for damages based upon actions taken in their official capacities.
If I was a Green Bay resident, I would carry a copy of the above Supreme Court case plus the laws of the state the outline when fingerprinting is authorized, (more than likely only when arrested; traffic violations are not normally arrest offenses) and remind the officer that he/she had better be careful what they are doing when requesting fingerprints from me or I will own their children's college fund and his/hers pension and garnish their wages for payment of the "damages" that they have caused.
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