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To: annalex
Benedict XVI is said to be likely to approve the recommendation, although it may be hard to prove the sexuality of candidates for priesthood

It will be something that will be obvious well before a young man is close to being ordained. It is just that Seminaries in the US have refused to do anything about it, and in some instances have kicked out faithful young men who have complained about the atmosphere created by the attitudes that would allow men who reject the teachings of the Church to be ordained to the priesthood.

18 posted on 08/29/2005 9:36:20 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I agree. Besides, even if some homosexual priests get ordained, there is a big difference between cultivating homosexuality and failing to detect unsuitable priests as a matter of exception.

My guess is that there has been a percentage of gay priests throughout history. But only since the 60s they were taught that their condition is fine as long as they contain themselves. Consequently was had been isolated scandal before became gay culture in the priesthood, rife with scandal, till the recent past.


19 posted on 08/29/2005 9:45:15 PM PDT by annalex
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To: SuziQ

On the positive side a family friend who has a son in the Priesthood said that the diocese warned him to date in college or they would not consider him for the seminary.


24 posted on 08/30/2005 3:17:57 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: SuziQ

That's it, exactly: persons being admitted to Seminaries who reject the teachings of the Church and persist in seeking the Priesthood. Not all, thank God, but it's the heart of the problem.

What I learned/was told/read as to the biggest challenge facing the Church from years ago forward (somewhat recognized now and being reckoned with, at least, I hope) was/is that a network, a community, so to speak, of homosexualities in the Priesthood and affiliated with Seminaries were proliferating the same interests and personality issues by whom they admitted.

Thus, a larger number of homosexuals in the Priesthood and the Priesthood itself modified to gradually reject the Church's teachings on this issue. It leads to where many Protestant groups are today and that is the slow humanistic changes in their concepts of what is holy and what is not and next thing you know, what is not holy stands where what is holy used to be.

I know this is a big issue for many of us Catholics. I'm glad about that, too.

About lesbians in religious orders, I was surprised to naively realize that that was so. It is not necessarily as predatory, perhaps, in nature as male homosexuals but it's still the same problem and issue (and challenge) and that is that some who reject the teachings of the Church are allowed to be admitted into Orders.


36 posted on 08/30/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: SuziQ

That's it, exactly: persons being admitted to Seminaries who reject the teachings of the Church and persist in seeking the Priesthood. Not all, thank God, but it's the heart of the problem.

What I learned/was told/read as to the biggest challenge facing the Church from years ago forward (somewhat recognized now and being reckoned with, at least, I hope) was/is that a network, a community, so to speak, of homosexualities in the Priesthood and affiliated with Seminaries were proliferating the same interests and personality issues by whom they admitted.

Thus, a larger number of homosexuals in the Priesthood and the Priesthood itself modified to gradually reject the Church's teachings on this issue. It leads to where many Protestant groups are today and that is the slow humanistic changes in their concepts of what is holy and what is not and next thing you know, what is not holy stands where what is holy used to be.

I know this is a big issue for many of us Catholics. I'm glad about that, too.

About lesbians in religious orders, I was surprised to naively realize that that was so. It is not necessarily as predatory, perhaps, in nature as male homosexuals but it's still the same problem and issue (and challenge) and that is that some who reject the teachings of the Church are allowed to be admitted into Orders.


37 posted on 08/30/2005 7:15:32 AM PDT by BIRDS
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