To: Sergeant Tim
Alright, it’s simple. Since the prisoners can’t be made to talk, there’s no longer any need to take prisoners.
2 posted on
06/12/2008 2:52:18 PM PDT by
JamesP81
(George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
To: Sergeant Tim
"
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to (have their citizens suffer and) repeat it."
George Santayana
3 posted on
06/12/2008 2:54:36 PM PDT by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: Sergeant Tim
In the long term, then, the Courts decision today accomplishes little, except perhaps to reduce the well-being of enemy combatants that the Court ostensibly seeks to protect. In the short term, however, the decision is devastating. At least 30 of those prisoners hitherto released from Guantanamo Bay have returned to the battlefield. See S. Rep. No. 11090, pt. 7, p. 13 (2007) (Minority Views of Sens. Kyl, Sessions, Graham, Cornyn, and Coburn) (hereinafter Minority Report). Some have been captured or killed. See ibid.; see also Mintz, Released Detainees Rejoining the Fight, Washington Post, Oct. 22, 2004, pp. A1, A12. But others have succeeded in carrying on their atrocities against innocent civilians. In one case, a detainee released from Guantanamo Bay masterminded the kidnapping of two Chinese dam workers, one of whom was later shot to death when used as a human shield against Pakistani commandoes. See Khan & Lancaster, Pakistanis Rescue Hostage; 2nd Dies, Washington Post, Oct. 15, 2004, p. A18. Another former detainee promptly resumed his post as a senior Taliban commander and murdered a United Nations engineer and three Afghan soldiers. Mintz, supra. Still another murdered an Afghan judge. See Minority Report 13. It was reported only last month that a released detainee carried out a suicide bombing against Iraqi soldiers in Mosul, Iraq. See White, Ex-Guantanamo Detainee Joined Iraq Suicide Attack, Washington Post, May 8, 2008, p. A18.
Scalia did his homework on this. Lotta good it did.
4 posted on
06/12/2008 2:58:33 PM PDT by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: Repub4bush; rightinthemiddle; andyk; tiredoflaundry; sono; RasterMaster; markedmannerf; ...
Ping!
See this Freeper site post and be listening to The Great One tonight.
5 posted on
06/12/2008 3:01:49 PM PDT by
Sergeant Tim
(In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
To: Sergeant Tim
You cannot litigate war.
War is the state that exists when you are beyond the capacity of civilian law to protect you. When normal civilian law is insufficient to contain or resolve a conflict, when men in suits with briefcases backed by cops with pistols are no longer adequate to the threat at hand, you are by definition at war.
During this period in time you are not going to issue subpoenas, you are not going to read anyone their rights, you are not going to cite anyone or see them in court. You are going to send stout men with guns to kill them, them and anyone unfortunate or foolish enough to be standing nearby. You are going to re-define the facts on the ground, you are going to create a new status quo.
You are not going to recreate the previous status quo, because that is the “status quo” that brought you into war in the first place. You are going to re-draw the maps, redefine the demographics, re-write constitutions, and put people into graves who sorely need to be there.
Then, and only then, when a new status quo emerges that you can live with, that does not threaten you, you return to “rule of law” and the rule by men in suits with briefcases.
If judges and attorneys are sufficient to protect you, you are not yet at war. But once you realize you are at war, judges and attorneys are of no use to you until the war is won and over.
7 posted on
06/12/2008 3:11:52 PM PDT by
marron
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