Posted on 08/21/2008 1:07:48 PM PDT by IntheknowGuy
The worsening situation in Mexico, despite its barbarity, breadth of murder, kidnappings, and corruption, is not resonating in the American psyche (albiet, perhaps the border states). We agonize and scrutinize the security situation in Iraq, headlines about dozens of wounded and dead, and we have this raging debate on the way ahead there. We have more deaths in our inner-cities from drug related crime nationwide, let alone the horrific numbers climbing in our southern neighbor..yet it doesn’t appear to be a front burner concern...and the Mexican senior military leadership knows this. Expect to see “martial law” and Calderon will be complicate...they know they must take a stand, and that the US doesn’t seem to take proportional concern about it. Look what happened in Georgia..and the world view is, we did nothing (yet to be seen, Moscow has lost a great deal of momentum, and will be staggering from this for years). We have seen the paradigm shift throughout many regions after the demise of the Soviet Union, and the dismanteling of the decades old Bi-Polar security arrangement. The shift will continue with significant changes emerging in Mexico in the next several months.
After the wall is built, I don’t give a rats ass what happens in Mexico!....
We really just need to secure the border. Good thing we have 2 candidates willing to do that!
...Oh wait.
Suppose an aggressive push by conservatives to draw attn to this and get some action tried to shame the WH into doing something.
I believe it'd be easier to nudge Obama into action than McCain. McCain would be too distracted with "Now's my chance to deliver another kick to my base!".
Obama could be thrown on the defensive.
Here is another reason I'm not eager to vote for McCain.
So what?
IBTZ
“I believe it’d be easier to nudge Obama into action than McCain. McCain would be too distracted with “Now’s my chance to deliver another kick to my base!”.”
I agree.
..lol..I hear you..another perspective..based on that, why are we concerned by any instability anywhere, if we are not concerned with a bordering neighbor. Terrorism thrives on instability (Pre 9/11 Afghanistan, southern Lebanon, Wazirastan, western Pakistan) Mexico spirals into greater instability, that only provides the swamp of chaos the terrorists would want to exploit.
Build the fence. Now.
Careful newbie.
Old Sarge...Sniff,sniff
Bush desperately wants to help by sending Mexico $1 Billion that will be split up by the corrupt government officials and ruling families.
Sadly, regular Americans aren't excited about further financing Mexico's already rich elite.
/S
I don’t think Mexico is on the verge of a coup, but there are major problems there. The left is hard at work, and Hugo is lusting over Mexico and obviously has no fear of either Mexico or us. Notice how he seized a Mexican cement plant last week with nary a peep from the US. This is the first Latin American company he has seized, and he did it because he felt he could get away with it. And he did.
We have to get working and support Mexico and in fact, we need an effective Latin American alliance of democracies that would be similar to NATO but more aggressive and effective.
We also have to keep up our support for the anti-drug programs, because the alliances between the narcos and the left are crucial to supporting “revolution” throughout Latin America. These alliances have critically destablized Mexico. When we got control of them in Colombia, despite the opposition of the Dems, this was what enabled the Colombian government to restore stability and sanity to their country.
There are many people on FR who hate Mexico, and pop their little heads up and stick their tongues out any time the country is metioned. But they should grow up and realize that Mexico in particular and Latin America in general are crucial to our security.
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Every darn time those folks have asked me for money I have sent 2cents(postage due) back to them with the message:
Build The Wall !
Enforce The Law !
Recall Ike? Operation Wetback !
How long are the moderators going to let this guy agitate on this forum?
This reads to me that you and the U.S. are fully engaged in the extortion of the mexican govt. "Send us money or we'll let the drugs through!"
Let mexico have its revolution. They need it.
Concur..I fear the Mexicans may take action first..and rather abruptly..though I was wrong before..thinking I was wrong, and I was right..lol..we shall see.
If there is a coup, it will be the narco traficantes taking over. Right now they are seriously challenging the government for control of several large areas of Mexico. There have been 800 people killed in the state of Chihuahua so far this year. Sinaloa is iffy. As easy as it is to criticize Calderon and the Mexican government, a narco state would be a thousand times worse, and the rest of the Mexican population would have an even better reason to immigrate here — legally or otherwise. Of course, Chavez encourages the drug trafficking because he hates the Mexicans (he nationalized the Mexican cement giant Cemex this week) and because he believes drugs weaken the Unites States. He might get more than he bargained for, however, if the narcos turn on him, as well.
Castro (Raoul), Chavez and the Marxists in Central America would love nothing more than to destabilize Mexico and bring Communism right to the U.S. border. Anyone who thinks a fence will keep it at bay is living in dreamland.
I'm sure that NAFTA and U.S. policies toward illegal immigration take that possibility seriously. If we think we have problems now, wait until we have to cope with that kind of chaos! I'm not saying it's a certainty but it's a problem that truly demands our attention. It's been a Communist dream for 60 years.
Any “revolution” Mexico has will be the left and Hugo Chavez, Russia and Iran taking over. I don’t think any of us wants that.
What an absolute crock of shit.
There will be martial law in Washington DC before it happens in Mexico.
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