Posted on 02/19/2009 11:56:39 AM PST by slomark
(You've got to see the image of Ghandi Obamaized, or is it Obama Ghandized?)
In a February 23 articled titled Partisanship, by the bye, The New Yorker compares President Obama to Mahatma Gandhi.
Fifty years ago, the New Yorker said, the civil-rights movement understood that nonviolence can be an effective weapon even ifor especially ifthe other side refuses to follow suit. Obama has a similarly tough-minded understanding of the political uses of bipartisanship, which, even if it fails as a tactic for compromise, can succeed as a tonal strategy: once the other side makes itself appear intransigently, destructively partisan, the game is half won. Obama is learning to throw the ball harder. But its not Rovian hardball hes playing. More like Gandhian hardball.
Were not even sure what the hell that means, because the article is written in that smarmy, pseudo-intellectual style meant to impress the reader with the writers intellect more than the substance of the article itself.
But to tell you the truth, we also think Obamas a lot like Gandhi. After all, both of their fathers had multiple wives. Both of them were community organizers. Both were attorneys. And both look so damn sexy with their shirts off.
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Which Ghandi?
I think the NYorker meant “Obambi”.
The one that works at the midwest gas station Hillary Clinton talked about a few years back.
Why do people use the spelling Ghandi instead of Gandhi.
Any particular reason?
“Which Ghandi?
The one that works at the midwest gas station Hillary Clinton talked about a few years back.”
Could it be one of many who own 7/11 in Delaware. You know the ones that Biden mentioned.
???
Gandhi father didn't have more than one wife at any time. His marriages were not concurrent.
Well, Obama hasn’t suggested that the Jews commit suicide yet. Unlike Gandhi-ji. The Jews should have offered themselves to the butchers knife, he said. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. [from a 1946 interview with biographer Louis Fischer] Never much liked Gandhi myself. F_____g guilt-monger didn’t have the guts to follow his own morbid suggestions. Happy to have others do his dieing for him though.
During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. The Jews should have offered themselves to the butchers knife, he said. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.
I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions
He also said:
If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman and child to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them.
The German persecution of the Jews seems to have no parallel in history. The tyrants of old never went so mad as Hitler seems to have gone. And he is doing it with religious zeal. For he is propounding a new religion of exclusive and militant nationalism in the name of which any inhumanity becomes an act of humanity to be rewarded here and hereafter. The crime of an obviously mad but intrepid youth is being visited upon his whole race with unbelievable ferocity. If there ever could be a justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against Germany, to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be completely justified. But I do not believe in any war. A discussion of the pros and cons of such a war is therefore outside my horizon or province. But if there can be no war against Germany, even for such a crime as is being committed against the Jews, surely there can be no alliance with Germany. How can there be alliance between a nation which claims to stand for justice and democracy and one which is the declared enemy of both?"
Further, his commitment to lying prone at the wolfs maw wasnt unique to the Jews he had a similar prescription for the whole of continental Europe engulfed in WWII -
From what I've read about Gandhi I do not like him. He let his wife die from pneumonia because when the English doctor wanted to give her this new medicine, penicillin he refused because he didn't want violence done to her body but yet he accepted this very same medicine when he was infected.
The man was a hypocrite.
:::rolls eyes:::
Here is someone's rebuttal on another thread:
I do know that penicillan was a highly experimental drug at that time. I don't know what year it was, but my mother worked at Flushing Hospital in New York when the first penicillin shot was given--I know if was in the early to mid 40's. So offering penicillin then was NOT the same as offering it today. It was not known whether it would help or hurt, and it would not be the same as offering quinine, which was a known factor at that time.
Kasturba joined her husband in political protests. She traveled to South Africa in 1897 to be with her husband. From 1904 to 1914, she was active in the Phoenix Settlement near Durban. During the 1913 protest against working conditions for Indians in South Africa, Kasturba was arrested and sentenced to three months in a hard labor prison. Later, in India, she sometimes took her husband's place when he was under arrest. In 1915, when Gandhi returned to India to support indigo planters, Kasturba accompanied him. She taught hygiene, discipline, reading and writing to women and children.
Kasturba suffered from chronic bronchitis. Stress from the Quit India Movement's arrests and ashram life caused her to fall ill. Kasturba fell ill with bronchitis which was subsequently complicated by Pneumonia. In January of 1944, Kasturba suffered two heart attacks. She was now confined to her bed much of the time. Even there she found no respite from pain. Spells of breathlessness interfered with her sleep at night. Yearning for familiar ministrations, Kasturba asked to see an Ayurvedic doctor.
Gandhi and his son Devdas Gandhi had a fight over the treatment. Devdas had arranged for penicillin from Calcutta, but Gandhi refused to give it to Kasturba as it had to be injected. Why do you want to prolong your mothers agonies after all the suffering she has been through? Gandhi asked. Then, with utmost compassion, he said, You cant cure her now, no matter what miracle drug you may muster. But if you insist, I will not stand in your way.
Devadas bowed his head. He had no further pleadings to offer. The doctors looked relieved.
After a short while, Kasturba stopped breathing. She died in Gandhi's arms while both were still in prison.
I read “Gandh”i as part of my home schooling ... from what was in the book this English military doctor showed up where they were living. The doctor wanted to inject penicillin into his wife to cure her. Gandhi said no because it was doing violence to the body - not the drug but the needle. Penicillin was already known by that time and hailed as a miracle drug.
There is nothing about Gandhi that makes me want to revere him as some Liberals do ...
Proof that Ghandi was a nut.
Forget about pacifism.
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