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Obama In Turkey "We Do Not Consider Ourselves A Christian Nation" (Video)
http://conservativexpress.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-in-turkey-we-do-not-consider.html ^ | 4/6/09

Posted on 04/06/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by DrGop0821

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To: starlifter

It was a statement that need not been said. It is like he makes a point of being anti religion anti christian especially.


141 posted on 04/06/2009 5:04:49 PM PDT by mel
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To: DrGop0821

USURPER TROJAN HORSE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE AMERICA HATER


142 posted on 04/06/2009 5:09:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: imjimbo

I believe in the end, the military will save the country and he will be taken away in handcuffs.


143 posted on 04/06/2009 5:14:54 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: starlifter
Now you did just contradict yourself...

If we were a theocracy (thank God we are not) then they would be appropriate.
A theocracy is a nation ruled by God. So you are thanking God that He isn't ruling us? That's kinda dumb.
144 posted on 04/06/2009 7:51:33 PM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Blogger
Nope, a theocracy is a nation ruled by a bunch of religious zealots. Read: Saudi Arabia.
145 posted on 04/07/2009 5:20:06 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Gordon Greene; All
I commend the following to you for contemplation:
- Matthew 7:1-2
- Exodus 20:16
146 posted on 04/07/2009 5:23:58 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: mel
Agree.
147 posted on 04/07/2009 5:27:22 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Jvette
I've more than adequately made my points and considered yours.

Unfortunately, you are having fits that I don't agree with you. Sorry.

148 posted on 04/07/2009 5:28:19 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter

Theo=God
Cracy=government

God ruled state.

A theocracy, if it were ruled by the one true God (as one day it will be), is not a bad thing. A Christian theocracy - if it is truly Christianity and not being used as some power tool that distorts Christianity - would not be a bad thing in theory. Problem is, even in Christianity, short of the Lord ruling here Himself, we will ALWAYS distort it and ruin it. At that point it becomes more akin to a fascist state with a “Christian” label.

Saudi Arabia is a cult state. They rule by their religious principles with the man promoting zeal. Ultimately, it is about power and greed for power for them too. They don’t live by the rules that they dish out on everyone else.

A Representative Republic is the best form of Government that man has been involved in. Unfortunately, it appears that there are no truly representative Republics any more.


149 posted on 04/07/2009 5:42:02 AM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: starlifter

Wrong again. I am not having fits because you disagree with me. Rather it angers me that you lie and deliberately ignore the history and purpose of the founding of this country.

You have no point and resort instead to snide quips.


150 posted on 04/07/2009 7:44:28 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Blogger
Fair points.
151 posted on 04/07/2009 8:41:30 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter; All

“Another atheist or evolutionist with an ax to grind. Push that crap someplace else or maybe study more of the founding Fathers and the beginnings of the nation instead of liberal professors and public education.

You can argue that you don’t believe the Founders were right but you cannot without being ignorant or spreading lies argue they were not pro Christian nation...

The word, “Christian” not being in the Constitution is a lame and lazy argument.”

For your contemplation...

In reference to your chosen scripture passages, tell me how I did either? I was simply looking at your own testimony. Are you saying your past and present posts are not indicative of your actual beliefs?

Now, if you’d like to throw Christian doctrine back in our collective faces then you might study up a bit on that yourself. Are you a Christian? It’s relevant to the particular scriptures you chose.


152 posted on 04/07/2009 5:27:49 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: SJackson
Black liberation theology is as “Christian” as the Nation of Islam is “islamic.” In other words, it's not. Any real muslim can tell you that Malcolm X-style “black muslims” are not real muslims at all. Similarly, real Christians rightfully do not consider Barack Obama a Christian either.
153 posted on 04/07/2009 7:18:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: starlifter
We have freedom of religion in this country because we were founded by Christians. We have no religious establishment because of the Protestant Reformation. Different kinds of Christians came to America to escape persecution.

We are a Christian Nation, but not a theocracy. There's a big difference. There are many Christian Nations in the world, but very few theocracies. Jews and other non-Christians are free to not be Christian because this nation was founded by Christians who believed in freedom of conscience.

154 posted on 04/07/2009 7:26:02 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: starlifter

I hope you are wearing a nomex fire suit! ;^)

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country,” ~ Barack Obama


155 posted on 04/08/2009 2:24:16 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: shibumi
The notion of a totally secular society was purloined from the Soviet Constitution, which originated the statement and concept of "Separation of Church and State."

Do you have an Authoritative source for this statement?
Thanx

156 posted on 04/08/2009 5:57:51 AM PDT by Freeper
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To: FBD
awe geez...........this guy continues to fail meet the already abysmally low expecxtations we set for him.

I have a bunch of nomex flight suits - think they'll be good enough?

157 posted on 04/08/2009 6:41:40 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Freeper

Scroll down to article 124:

http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/36cons04.html

See this link for commentary:

http://www.mdfva.org/Issues/Church_n_State/SeparationChurchnStatePamphlet.html


158 posted on 04/08/2009 11:34:31 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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