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Where in the civilization historical cycle is the USA?(Poll)
RadioVice Online ^ | June 11, 2009 | Steve McGough

Posted on 06/12/2009 5:37:24 AM PDT by libertarian27

You’ve probably seen this quote, incorrectly attributed to someone named Alexander Tyler, floating around the Internet mail queues. Even snoops has a page dedicated to the e-mail that goes around comparing statistics between the Clinton and Bush years and more recently Bush versus Obama.

I’m not interested in rehashing those numbers - not noted here - but would like to put out the part of the e-mail concerning the historical cycle of a democracy. We’re technically a democratic republic, but what say you about this…

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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

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Just putting it out there for discussion…

Where in the civilization historical cycle is the USA? (poll at link)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: congress; economy; obama; politics; poll; vicevich

1 posted on 06/12/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by libertarian27
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To: libertarian27

# 1 - From Bondage to spiritual faith
# 2 - From spiritual faith to great courage
# 3 - From courage to liberty
# 4 - From liberty to abundance
# 5 - From abundance to complacency
# 6 - From complacency to apathy
# 7 - From apathy to dependence
# 8 - From dependence back into bondage
http://radioviceonline.com/where-in-the-civilization-historical-cycle-is-the-usa/

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2 posted on 06/12/2009 5:38:43 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: libertarian27
The US is right about where Rome was when vomitoriums were prevalent....except we have American Idol
3 posted on 06/12/2009 5:39:40 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: libertarian27

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4 posted on 06/12/2009 5:42:08 AM PDT by Minipax
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To: Erik Latranyi
The US is right about where Rome was when vomitoriums were prevalent..


5 posted on 06/12/2009 5:43:01 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Hey....she stole my sewing left overs!!!


6 posted on 06/12/2009 5:46:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: libertarian27

I’d say we’re between 6 & 7. Driving apathy is ignorance. Driving us into 7 and eventually 8 is Barak Hussein Obama and organizations like Acorn, ACLU, etc.


7 posted on 06/12/2009 5:57:09 AM PDT by Made In The USA (BO stinks.)
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To: agere_contra
com⋅pla⋅cen⋅cy 1. a feeling of quiet pleasure or security, often while unaware of some potential danger, defect, or the like; self-satisfaction or smug satisfaction with an existing situation, condition, etc. Barry and Michelle 'owns' that term
8 posted on 06/12/2009 5:58:40 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“except we have American Idol.”

There’s always that.


9 posted on 06/12/2009 5:59:52 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: agere_contra

That dress makes her look like Cynthia McKinney.


10 posted on 06/12/2009 6:03:31 AM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (III III IV)
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That dress makes her look like Cynthia McKinney.

They could be sisters....

11 posted on 06/12/2009 6:14:23 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Made In The USA
I’d say we’re between 6 & 7. Driving apathy is ignorance.

I'd have to agree. To take it a step further, this scale should actually have one more step, ignorance, between complacency and dependence.

12 posted on 06/12/2009 6:47:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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Yep. "Willful Ignorance" certainly is a step. Unless it's considered apathy.

IMHO, we're somewhere between 5 and 7, depending.

13 posted on 06/12/2009 7:21:20 AM PDT by wbill
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