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Obama’s Birth Certificate Filed With Court (the Ebay guy is baaaaack)
Rovingpatrol ^ | 9/4/09 | staff

Posted on 09/04/2009 11:00:58 AM PDT by pissant

Remember Lucus Smith? The man who claimed he had Obama’s birth certificate and tried auctioning it off on ebay?

Lucas made a couple of youtube vids.

Lucas filed a declaration with the court in California concerning how he had gotten a hold of Obama’s birth certificate and submitted the birth certificate along with the declaration.

I personally don’t know for sure if its real but he would be a fool for knowingly filing a lie with a court.

Lucas’s latest youtube vid defending his find…

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To: patriot08; Red Steel; pissant; Fred Nerks; mojitojoe; MHGinTN; null and void; Vendome; ...
Why’s Obongo so quiet?

Internet rumor says 0bongo is observing Ramadan, August 22, 2009 through September 16, 2009.

41 posted on 09/04/2009 1:15:44 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: PubliusMM
.but, the history to this point is not particularly encouraging.

The anointed one can resolve this very quickly.

And history clearly points that Obama won't resolve nothing.

42 posted on 09/04/2009 1:15:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

Or possibly persuade a judge to move to the next step to seek discovery of Obama documents.


43 posted on 09/04/2009 1:33:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT

Of course he is. The dates coincide perfectly. He’s looking a little thinner too.


44 posted on 09/04/2009 1:41:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: pissant

I wish Jim Thompson would get off his mail delivery route, find Lucas and bitch slap him.

Tard.


45 posted on 09/04/2009 1:47:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pissant

See now I am not even going to bother looking at this document in any detail but, this you can tell is definitely scanned.

You can tell by looking at how the document is mishapen due it being impossible to eliminate the document “handling” artificats such as rolling, edging and the scanner edge feature in the lower right hand corner.

This is unlike the fake of Barry O.’s that has folds and supposed raised features but, unlike the perfect rendition containing no artifacts, no folds, margins that were electronically improved and made even and pristine, almost as if were computer generated, not scanned.


46 posted on 09/04/2009 1:55:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: traderrob6

That’s not good enough! /s


47 posted on 09/04/2009 2:03:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Churchillspirit
For what it is worth on the Wiki site, Canada (also a former UK colony with a history of merging two cultures: English and Quebec French)is also reported to use the same two date formats as Kenya, plus a third format! See color code brown on the map. Kenya colony and Mombassa Protectorate of Kenya (leased from Zanzibar) might have had different date format traditions that carried over into the merged country.
48 posted on 09/04/2009 2:15:38 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: AlexW

Sorry about the formatting on the following

Which Birth Certificate?

 

  1. The one that was with his Kindergarten records?  Those records and that copy mysteriously have disappeared.

 

  1. The one that some White Spokesman referred to as having been vaporized in some house fire, in 1972?  What country was that one from, in whose possession was it and why did they have it?

 

  1. Assuming he had a birth certificate that was vaporized, in 1972, What Birth Certificate did he use to obtain a passport?  What Birth Certificate did he use to obtain admission into college and get college loans?

 

Now, the best part:

  1. Where is the Birth Certificate he found among his mother's belongings in 1995, when she passed away?  He wrote about it in one of his books and expounded about why it was there.

 

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

 

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

 

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

 

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

 

Where are those Birth Certificates?


49 posted on 09/04/2009 2:28:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pissant

Like the picture of a Ogabe’s alleged BC from Orly and this one.....the birth name is the first thing that makes it suspect in my book. Barry Obama was most likely his birth name. Then he became Barry Soetoro, then he switched back to Barry Obama....then decided on Barack Hussein Obama(Jr., II, etc). Different spelling of Barrack/Barack......

Plus the fact that Inspector Clouseau(Lucas Smith) and his cohort colmado_naranja has such an extensive criminal past that any sane person should take this with a pillar of salt.


50 posted on 09/04/2009 2:40:11 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Start checking out what he has given us so far...
* This is a typed document
Copy is issued on Feb 1, 09 by
Hilton Magonga
Chief Administrator (so should be there today)
Issued by:
Coast Province General Hospital
Mombasa British Protectoriate of Kenya
Certificate Number 32018
DOB August 4, 1961 Time: 7:42PM
Weight: 7Lbs, 1 Oz 18” Long
Mother: Stanley Ann Obama
Maiden Name: Dunham
Birthplace of Mother:
Wichita, KS, United States
Residence of Mother:
Honalulu, Hawaii, United States
Occupation of Mother: Student
Father:
Barak Hussein Obama
DOB: 1936
Birthplace of Father:
Kanyadhiang village,Kenya
Occupation of Father: Student
Attending Physician:
James O. W. Ang’Awa
Hospital Administrator:
John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961

Here is a paper published by the Attending Physician:
http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7
From the Oxford Journal
here is a link to others:
http://www.nextbio.com/b/search/author/JO%20Angawa
Cited in Google Searches as JO Angawa

This is a United Nations entry for the daughter of the doctor who is supposed to have delivered Barack Hussein Obama in Mombasa, Kenya.
Mary Atieno Ang’awa (Kenya). Place and date of birth: Mombasa, Kenya, 8 March 1954. Nationality: Kenyan.
She is now a prominent High Court Justice in Nairobi.
However, this confirms that in fact her father probably did practice in Mombasa, if she also was born there in the 1950’s. He apparently accompanied the 1978 Kenyan Team to the Olympics in Moscow (President Carter ;ead the U.S. boycott of these games).
She could easily dispel anything about this “You Tube” document.
However, this begs the question — if you have to go overseas to authentic vital records concerning POTUS because of his father, are we really talking about a ‘natural-born Citizen?’
Of course, the answer is, “No!”
I have seen questions asked, “Why Mombasa?” This is likely because Mombasa was one of the few cities at the time that recognized “plural marriages,” and by this time, Obama, Sr. was a polygamist.
There are other problems with this document, including the use of the infant footprint for newborn identification. In the U.S., the F.B.I was arguing for this practice in 1966 —
No one seems to have employed this practice in Colonial Africa — from anything that has been see, yet.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200906180705.html
“”We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.”

Lucas Smith Defense of new birth certificate by WND and Jerome Corsi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1DFV0hsPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCc3Axxd8kU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdueOWxo518&NR=1

Its pretty simple really:
1. They did have footprints in 1961.
2. It was a protectoriate in 61, then independent in 63, but all policies and procedures were in place and being used in 1961, evidence has been provided already on Taits site, Andy Martins, Allan Keyes, etc.
3. Obama is hiding something, which is why everything is sealed.
4. This has not been examined by experts, so any comment is only speculation at this time.
5. Long form Birth certificates and COLB are very different, for different purposes.
6. The video of the certificate shows its a COPY, not the origonal, probably black and white. Note the Document stamp which he specifies and denotes that it has info with the e-mail address, administrators name, etc.
7. We now have a doctors name.
8. We now have an administrators name.

I find it specious for anyone to give all this easily verifiable information, remember he has not made money on this yet.
He admits he is no angle, admits he has made payoffs, and states that it takes “someone like him” to get this information. And he did.

Give the guy his 10 minutes, lets examine the document, verify it, and if its fake, find out NOW. If its not, lets take care of business, just as it should have been done in the first place.


51 posted on 09/04/2009 5:35:29 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: mnehring

This guy can be a fool and/or not right in the head, as you say. But... the fact remains that Obama still refuses to show us his official birth certificate.

The question is: WHY???????????????? WHAT IS HE HIDING???


52 posted on 09/04/2009 5:39:57 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: pissant
There is information here that can either be verified or shown to be false.

The fact that he is also willing to produce a provenance to a court of law does give it more sway.

Let's see how this plays out. It's an interesting development.

53 posted on 09/04/2009 5:56:58 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: pissant

Since Kenya was a “British Protectorate”, shouldn’t the dates be written in the British manner: day/month/year?


54 posted on 09/04/2009 6:18:13 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: All

__________________________

Canada Free Press
JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

The Basic Facts
•Barack Hussein Obama is foreign born, period (Kenya)
•Regardless of his birth place, his parents had foreign loyalties (strike 2)
•He has foreign loyalties, demonstrated in every policy decision (strike 3)
•He’s not Christian, but Muslim
•He’s not “black,” but Arab
•There is NO U.S. birth certificate, other than the forged COLB
•NO Hawaiian hospital will confirm his birth place (he has named two)
•His policies are designed to destroy the Constitutional Republic, not to uphold or defend (strike 4)
•He won’t go away without a blood bath
These are the basic facts as they exist today. This is the basis for where we are headed…

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Radio interview in Israel with Dr. Orly.
Discusses bc, Obama not elgible due to being British citizen, death threats, Obots tampering with her car:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1302

Dr. Orly Taitz storms Israel making a clear case for Obama (TV)
inelgibility- Obama is a British citizen.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Dr. Orly’s official website, PayPal:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

_____________________________


55 posted on 09/04/2009 6:19:33 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Electric Graffiti
Plus the fact that Inspector Clouseau(Lucas Smith) and his cohort colmado_naranja has such an extensive criminal past that any sane person should take this with a pillar of salt.

Then there is the fact that Obama's Mama had a history of making untrue statements concerning her marriage and divorce, coupled with Barry's history of lies and deception, which makes them and Smith about equal in credibility. The truth will lie in proving the documents with doctors, hospitals and witnesses of the time period. Should it be shown the witness to Obama's birth in Hawaii was other than a doctor in a hospital, all heck will break loose. Too many loose ends to walk away from on Obama's eligibility including the Constitutional definition of NBC and we the people deserve truthful answers nothing less will do. This is still America, despite claims to the contrary.

56 posted on 09/04/2009 8:41:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Hildy

http://blog.syracuse.com/news/2008/01/oswego_county_centerpiece_0116.html

What Lucas Smith did to this young man will break your heart. How a stranger stepped up to the plate will restore your faith in the human spirit.


57 posted on 09/04/2009 8:49:53 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Green will NEVER be the color of 9/11.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Oh my gosh...


58 posted on 09/04/2009 10:27:23 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I haven’t been following, is he completely unreliable?

I suspect we are about to find out.

Cry Havoc and
let slip the Dogs of War!

Well I though it seemed somehow appropriate.

Maybe just

Lock and Load!

would suffice.

59 posted on 09/04/2009 10:29:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: pissant
I don't recall seeing "width between the shoulders" measurement before, on a hospital or an official government BC.

We need to see another full BC from Coast Hospital from late '61 or early '62.

60 posted on 09/04/2009 10:47:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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