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Mr. President, You are no Abe Lincoln
Constitutional Guardian ^ | 10/5/2009 | Nancy Tengler

Posted on 10/05/2009 11:59:13 AM PDT by timesthattrymenssouls

"I expect to maintain this contest until successful, or till I die, or am conquered. Or my term expires, or Congress or the country forsakes me.”– Abraham Lincoln, 1862

Oh to hear those words from our President today.

While our troops--the sons and daughters, husbands and wives, fathers and mothers of our fellow Americans--are dying in Afhanistan, our general in charge of the region, General McChrystal, waits for the President to consider his August 30th request for 40,000 additional troops. This request is the result of his on the ground analysis of what it would take to win in Afghanistan, the "...war of necessity" as Obama called it on August 17th in a speech to the Veteran's of Foreign Wars.

Meanwhile Vice President Biden is arguing for a downsizing of the number of troops on the ground in Afghanistan and a focus on killing selected terrorists. Can this be a serious suggestion? Did we not try something similar in Iraq under Bush II that cost Rumsfeld his job? And what about listening to our experts, especially the ones we hire ourselves, just as President Obama handpicked General McChrystal in May? Never mind leadership--our expectation that our President would actually exhibit some.

Just a month ago we were told health care was such a crisis we had to solve it NOW. A few months before that the economy was in such crisis we had to push through the largest economic stimulus bill in our history as a nation IMMEDIATELY. But when it comes to our national security and the lives of the young men and women in our country, this President has more important things to do and feels no urgency to respond in a week or a month, in fact, he will surely require at least three more weeks to make a decision on General McChrystal's August 30th request. Once again we seem to be asking him to make decisions as he said "above his pay grade."

Thankfully General McChrystal is a warrior who is interested in victory. When asked in London if he agreed with Vice President Biden's recommended strategy General McChrystal was forthright.

"The short answer is no," McChrystal said. "You have to navigate from where you are, not where you wish to be. A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position is probably a shortsighted strategy." http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelBarone/2009/10/05/a_war_of_necessity_turns_out_not_so_necessary

Lincoln was a hands on Commander-in-Chief. He frequently visited the front to lend support to the troops. He consulted with his generals extensively. He sat up nights waiting for word, tortured with the weight of his office. He communicated with the nation on the progress of the war. And he said things like, "I expect to maintain this contest until successful..."


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: abelincoln; afghanistan; biden; lincoln; mccrystal

1 posted on 10/05/2009 11:59:13 AM PDT by timesthattrymenssouls
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To: timesthattrymenssouls
A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position is probably a shortsighted strategy."

A strategy that results in a stable Afghanistan would contradict recorded history since they've never been in such a position. The final outcome lies somewhere in between functioning democracy and cut-and-run, and the strategy has to recognize that and identify realistic goals.

2 posted on 10/05/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: timesthattrymenssouls

BO does a great Karl Marx though!


3 posted on 10/05/2009 12:02:32 PM PDT by albie
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To: timesthattrymenssouls

I don’t know why he claims to admire Lincoln. His role model clearly is FDR and his national socialism lite “New Deal”


4 posted on 10/05/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 years, Too bad a requirement for adult supervision was not put into the Constitution)
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To: timesthattrymenssouls

Lincoln was too smart to get involved in a futile nation-building crusade in Afghanistan. Time to bring the troops home!


5 posted on 10/05/2009 12:07:25 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: timesthattrymenssouls

Not only is Obama not an Abe Lincoln, he’s not even an Abe Vigoda.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 12:26:07 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: timesthattrymenssouls
Militarily, he's shaping up to be a GREAT Jefferson Davis. (FAIL!)

mmmm, mmmmm, mmmm.

Cheers!

7 posted on 10/05/2009 12:32:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
A strategy that results in a stable Afghanistan would contradict recorded history

Factually incorrect. Both under the Taliban and prior to the Soviet Invasion in 1989 Afghanistan was stable.

Stability in and of itself should not be a goal. It can be stable and hostile to US interests.

Here are the only 2 questions the 0 regime should be asking. What is the US National Interest in Afghanistan? Can that be achieved without US, or Nato, troops on the ground.

8 posted on 10/05/2009 12:34:41 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The 0 years, Too bad a requirement for adult supervision was not put into the Constitution)
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To: MNJohnnie

You ARE SO RIGHT!


9 posted on 10/08/2009 3:05:50 PM PDT by missanne (That's all I can stands and I can't stands no more?? This is one of those days!)
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