Posted on 01/07/2010 9:51:07 AM PST by big black dog
Mr. Pinks arguments were spot on. They are pretty difficult to argue against.
Unless one DOES tip at McDonalds, of course.
Look at it a different way, it is like working on commission, but the rate of commission you are paid is based on the market and your own work more than just some suit deciding his profit margin.
Or as we tell our customers who complain about the price of seeds/fertilizer/plants going up— “We can go up, or we can go out.”
And most of them never realize that if they ordered the same seeds from some catalogs, they’d be paying 3 or 4 times what they pay us, minimum. And yes, we have the best vegatable/herb/flower plants—homegrown, I might add—in our county and prob several of the surrounding counties. Not to mention the most pleasant and knowledgable staff! :)
This guy is a cheapskate. We have also asked a few of our more obnoxious customers NOT to come back. Something that happens VERY infrequently.
>>but if you’re not going to take care of my wait staff, I don’t want you in my restaurant.
Good for Keith.<<
Interesting. Who’s responsibility is it to take care of the wait staff?
Why is the wait staff in Alaska Airlines Boardrooms not allowed to accept tips? Who “takes care of” them?
I tip my 15 percent, but I have to say, why are so many of you attacking this guy?
Isn’t the idea that the customer pays the salary of the worker a little absurd?
That should be the job of the employer like any other field.
When you go to Wal-Mart, you don’t hand the cashier a little extra?
The whole system is stupid.
If a waiter has a couple customers an hour, they are making well over $10 an hour after tips. Sounds pretty good to me.
The minimum we tip is 10%. The better the service the more the tip, though we max out at 20% (except for breakfast because the bill is usually quite small compared to dinner -then we tip more than 20%).
>>Wait staff get paid a token salary, and are expected to work harder in order to make more money.<<
Perhaps this is the core problem.
My point was not that the government needs more taxes. Until we have the majority of Americans paying into the system, the increasing numbers of the ones who don’t will continue to screw those of us who do.
Every wait staff person I ever knew was a registered Democrat. They pay minimal to no taxes so they haven’t any skin in the game and are not affected by electing tax raising Democrats.
Most restaurant owners I know also scam on their income taxes. If they had to pay the full cost of their employees that other small businesses have to, they would also be more prone to elect officials who would change the current situation. Just look at all the liberal Hollywood types who go into the restaurant business. They know the scam.
Try looking at the bigger picture. We need to get more of the people who are in the boat, rowing. Once the majority are rowing it will be easier to throw the ballast overboard.
I'm old enough to remember when 10% was the standard tip. I've had a lot of people tell me that it has gone up to 15 - 20% because the cost of living has gone up. I'm not a math major, but if the cost of what I'm buying goes up - the cost of my 10% tip also goes up. That equates to a built-in cost of living increase.
I was also taught that TIPS meant "To Insure Proper Service". If I don't get good service (with a good attitude) I don't tip.
Find me one waiter that makes 2.13 an hour.
Most are raking it in good.
Reminded me of having lunch with a guy I know recently. He's notoriously cheap. I said I'd get the meal and he could get the tip. The meal was around $25 for the two of us, and he looked in his billfold, pulled out two ones, then grudgingly pulled out a third. I still thought this was cheap, but I usually tip 20%. On our way out of the restaurant, there was a big bowl of peppermints. He looked at them, then scooped a huge handful up and put them in his coat pocket. He grinned at me and said, "Think that was $3 worth of mints?"
Wait, your not supposed to use someone’s “beliefs” against them /sarc
Good! The cheap bastard.
“The owner could do this... The owner could do that...” Well he didn’t you cheap bastard. He through your sorry @ss out!!!! Haahaaaaa
Paultard indeed! I bet you nailed it.
Obama voters?
As opposed to ‘sane’ or ‘conservative’ or ‘not America hater’.
DH—One of the few times I’ve disagreed with your opinion, but I guess all cultures are different. Here on the coast of NC, waitressing, esp if you are polite, efficient, friendly, and quick, has gotten many a young girl or guy spending money or money for college. In a terminally depressed area—our main sources of income are tourism and commercial fishing—you simply can’t make any money at a convenience store or clerking at a grocery store.
I don’t ever mind tipping well for good service, and I’ll leave a little something even if the service was lousy. But I see your point as well. I just don’t agree with it. :)
Most Restaurants only pay their wait staff $2.13 to start. It's completely normal and expected that the bulk of their wages come from tips. It makes them highly motivated. Suggesting that this guy is underpaying his staff suggests you are unaware of how the service industry works in the US.
McDonald’s does not have waitstaff. They make minimum wage or more. A good waitress/waiter can make a living wage on tips. A bad one goes broke. It is free enterprize.
I take care of an elderly gentleman whose greatest joy is going to Bob Evans. He is dying from pancreatic cancer. His wife is dead. He has no children. He LOVES the waitresses at BE. I don’t know if they return that love, but they sure act like it. He is a big tipper, but he became one after they treated him so well, not before.
When I go to Walmart (or any other retail/department store) I don’t have an employee of the store waiting on me, bringing me items from around the store so I can see if I want to purchase that/those items while I sit comfortably at a table. I travel around the store, finding the items I want, and then go to the checkout (sometimes the automated ones) to make my purchase. The cashier isn’t providing me with direct service. I find this to be a bad example.
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