Posted on 01/07/2010 9:51:07 AM PST by big black dog
We weren't above icing down some “USED” beer and letting them have that.
Some scroungers never new the differerence.
We always tip 20% unless the service is really bad. I understand that is part of my bill when I sit down at a table that requires someone to take my order and keep my tea glass full.
Perhaps if he wasn’t such a tightwad, they wouldn’t have thrown him out. Betcha the other Free-staters won’t miss him. No one likes to be embarrassed by a stiff.
Canadians aren't THAT 'thin-skinned' about their tipping habits... :-)
“Wouldn’t it be more fair to just charge the customer another dollar for that steak,another dime for that drink,those fies,etc. and just pay the help ?”
Fair? What’s fair got to do with business? You speak like a child. An extra dollar for a steak, or an extra dime for fries would not cover the salary differential that tips do, and it would make your waiter as highly motivated as the fast-food dude at the drive-through window. Your idea would ruin incentive, decrease the income of waiters, and promote anti-capitalism.
I don’t tip at mcdonalds either. ;)
I did watch Killing Zoe on cable one time. Impressed by it because it was a 180 degree from the screw up bank-rob caper of Reservoir’. But it was a Roger Avary film..
I recognize that it is Keith’s restaurant - his private property - and as such he has the right to choose his customers.
When did he wake up from dream land?
I wonder if this jerk is aware of the civil rights laws.
Yup. And if you don't give at least 8% in tips, the wait staff ends up paying tax on tips they didn't receive.
The guy is just being a super duper cheap dickbag.
Move to Germany if you don't want to pay tips.
People who don’t tip or are stingy tippers bug me. I understand the frustration of his receipt being changed (unless, being with a group an automatic gratuity is added and he didn’t report that). However, his decision not to tip was made before that happened. Don’t go out if you don’t plan or can’t afford to tip, period. You are paying for service as well as food. I’m sure he has a lot of perfectly logical (in his mind) arguments for why he doesn’t tip, but the point of fact, he is cheap.
I try to always tip 30% + to make up for all the cheap bastards like this guy.
I have a personal rule: I don’t go out to eat (at an establishment) unless I’m prepared to tip 20% of my bill for the service.
Sometimes I’ll eat with a group and it never fails that one in a group of four or more will skate on the tip—and sometimes the tax if they can get away with it. A few rare birds I’ve seen will even try to slide on the drink. And these are folks that I know can cover it.
It doesn’t surprise me that establishments will put an automatic 15% gratuity on parties of 5 or 6 or more.
Loser, loser, loser. Tipping when earned is a sign of class and a boon to the freemarket system. It encourages good service.
I tip in restaurants etc. unless the service is bad, but I refuse to tip more than $5 under pretty much all situations when out with my wife and especially just myself.
That begins to approach the price of a meal, and under no circumstance will I pay a waiter or waitress the equivalent price of my meal. That’s ridiculous.
I don’t care if the night out was $60. 5 bucks is it.
Why? Considering the waiter had multiple people in an hour, they may make $3 an hour, but with my $5 tip and another couple tips that hour, they frankly make more than a lot of people.
I don’t understand the poor waiter thing because frankly, they make out like bandits and make more per hour than a lot of jobs.
And the service was mediocre at best because the place is always crowded?
LOL!
Yeah, I am sure the owner is crying in his beer over his “loss”.
The drinks are cheaper because the waitstaff is paid $3 an hour in anticipation that you will make up the difference in tips. This gives the CUSTOMER more power in the relationship by deciding how generous they will tip.
Getting a “free ride” buying cheap(er) drinks, while letting others make up the difference while you NEVER tip... sounds like an attitude smacking of liberalism to me.
I never tip, either. And here in New Zealand tipping is not the normal practise. I like it like that.
I can’t believe how many FReepers are in favor of tipping: it’s ideologically wrong. The restaurant owner is getting a free ride on his business risk by requiring his customers to fairly compensate his staff, giving him no incentive to run a high-quality fiscally-responsible operation.
Never tip anyone, ever. It’s bad form.
And if they “ban” your from their premises for not tipping — better still. They obviously don’t appreciate your custom, and deserve to have their ingratitude rewarded by losing it.
Shed no tears for being “banned” from Murphy’s Taproom. It’s appears to be a fly-by-night operation else they’d pay their staff properly.
>>And you continued to pay by credit card? Pay cash in questionable places.<<
Precicely.
I do not like the whole tipping thing, though I do tip about 20%. I hate the awkwardness when renting limo’s and stuff. DO I tip or not with such services? The answer is “nope”. I don’t tip bus drivers either. I would rather not tip waiters and waitresses if it were possible.
My solution to the whole thing, though, is that I have pretty much stopped going to restaurants and buy all my drinks at bars in cash, by the drink, at the bar. I’ve always hated the whole tipping thing. Confusiion about tipping has caused me to not use services (valet parking, etc.) and go it alone.
Bottom line, I’m 56 and have never accepted the tipping culture.
It seems like the author has an unhealthy obsession.
With all of the problems that we face it seems really odd for him to choose tipping servers as a line in the sand.
I guess its easier for him to drive his stupid “point” home with people he thinks he can bully than it is with those who make the laws that take away our liberty.
But since that's how it is, if you're too cheap to leave them a tip, please stay home. Just choose to never go out.
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