How many expect to tip the mechanic who gets $15 an hour of the $60 per hour the dealer charges for his services?Do you tip the clerk at the local convenience store?
But guess what?the convenience store clerk is paid $8.50 to $10 per hour which is what wait staff should get at least.
Wouldn't it be more fair to just charge the customer another dollar for that steak,another dime for that drink,those fies,etc. and just pay the help ?
>> Wouldn’t it be more fair to just charge the customer another dollar for that steak,another dime for that drink,those fies,etc. and just pay the help ?
Actually, no it wouldn’t. The personalization of a tip amount allows the customer to pay the amount the service deserved. It is a method of controlling the quality of service by ensuring that the income of the service staff is at the behest of the customer. If the price was figured into the cost, it would be the same regardless of the quality of service, and service quality would like go down.
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Of course if we crank their wages up then they lose a reason for good service. I’m a generous tipper, in places I frequent I get great service, they’ve even brought new staff to me to introduce them and tell them my preferences (favorite beer, usual time of arrival, etc). Tipping is not only a chance to reward or punish behavior by the staff, it’s also a chance to establish a relationship and be rewarded later.
“Wouldn’t it be more fair to just charge the customer another dollar for that steak,another dime for that drink,those fies,etc. and just pay the help ?”
Fair? What’s fair got to do with business? You speak like a child. An extra dollar for a steak, or an extra dime for fries would not cover the salary differential that tips do, and it would make your waiter as highly motivated as the fast-food dude at the drive-through window. Your idea would ruin incentive, decrease the income of waiters, and promote anti-capitalism.
Look at it a different way, it is like working on commission, but the rate of commission you are paid is based on the market and your own work more than just some suit deciding his profit margin.
Well, the way I look at it, tips are reserved for people who provide an additional service at a service location. For instance, the restaurant makes the food, but the additional service of getting it for you deserves the tip. Same with pizza deliveries.
Also, Im not sure how to categorize it, but I always tip my barber. It seems to be the accepted practice.
Hoosier makes an excellent point.
What is so special about waiters or waitresses that it is okay to pay them a pittance an hour (but then really pay them a lot more after tips than even bare minimum wage jobs).
I don’t see why the cashier at McDonald’s making $7 an hour doesn’t deserve as much as that waiter at Applebees probably bringing in $15 an hour after tips.
It’s MORALLY WRONG to give the waiter more via tips.
Tipping sets different standards for different jobs that are equally as difficult and low-paying.
I tip in restaurants, but this is my feeling about it.
Now, when it comes to valet parking (hardly ever done it though) or coffee shop-type situations with tip jars....never will I ever tip them. That’s just idiotic.
I was a waitress for years and I *love* the tipping system. It rewards those who are good at their job and runs off those who aren’t.
A good waitress in a good location can do really well. But it requires hard work and a LOT of patience. It helps young people learn about pleasing the customer and teaches valuable sales skills which can come in handy down the road. It’s a great way for young people to enter the workforce.
At the very least, it increases one’s appreciation of higher education! lol! (Working with older waitresses taught me what I did NOT want to be doing in 30 years. It got me to buckle down more than anything else back in the day when I was young and stupid.)
This is idiotic.
In the United States, which is where this restaurant is located, it is an EXPECTATION to tip. It’s part of the BUSINESS MODEL, and in fact, it gives the patron LIBERTY to decide HOW MUCH to pay for the service they receive. It doesn’t, however, give them liberty to STEAL IT, which is what not tipping is. If smaller minds have trouble getting their tiny brains around it, think of it as salary plus commission. Owner pays the salary, and you pay the commission. Not paying the commission is theft.
You get to decide the percent based on the experience, but service is NOT part of the price of a meal at a restaurant.
Were a restaurant owner to pay their wait staff ‘prevailing wages minus the tips’ their labor cost would be double or triple their competitors.
They’d be out of business in weeks, unless they had an unlimited supply of stupid cash set aside to donate to non-tipping idiots that seem to believe they live in Europe.
If you REALLY want to practice ‘liberty’, go set up a Catholic church on a street corner in Yemen. Then you’ll have my respect.
In THIS country, with our customs, calling selfishness ‘liberty’ is just a way to push around restaurant owners that are already getting pushed around by city, county, state, federal, and world government.
Go to Germany, pay triple for breakfast, and don’t tip - guilt free.
Go to Denny’s, pay $2.99 for an unbelievable amount of food, don’t tip, and you’re a thief. That simple.
See, here in this country, tipping IS freedom. You, and you alone, judge whether the service was adequate. If so, cough up. If not, lower the tip. If it was great, then make it 20% or higher.
A tipped position is like a commissioned position, its merit based pay.. you do your job well you make more money, you do it lousy you make less. Works well and washes out lousy service because they won’t enought to keep working. This guy doesn’t want to tip its his right, but I’d ban his ass too. He’s welcome not to tip ever, but if he’s not tipping for no reason other than he doesn’t feel like it, I have no reason to have my staff waste time on him for his $20 tab once a week.
He wants his beer and no tip, wait your turn at the bar until you get served and walk back to your group afterward.
This sort of customer is going to be known to wait staff and having them waste their time on him for his couple of beers a week when the place is busy isn’t worth the time. I don’t need my wait staff angry or fighting over who is going to get the dud.
He’s welcome to just be cheap, for whatever reason he wants to be, and the owner has every right to say... don’t come back now.. ya hear?
A tipped position is like a commissioned position, its merit based pay.. you do your job well you make more money, you do it lousy you make less. Works well and washes out lousy service because they won’t enought to keep working. This guy doesn’t want to tip its his right, but I’d ban his ass too. He’s welcome not to tip ever, but if he’s not tipping for no reason other than he doesn’t feel like it, I have no reason to have my staff waste time on him for his $20 tab once a week.
He wants his beer and no tip, wait your turn at the bar until you get served and walk back to your group afterward.
This sort of customer is going to be known to wait staff and having them waste their time on him for his couple of beers a week when the place is busy isn’t worth the time. I don’t need my wait staff angry or fighting over who is going to get the dud.
He’s welcome to just be cheap, for whatever reason he wants to be, and the owner has every right to say... don’t come back now.. ya hear?