Posted on 02/06/2010 7:15:00 AM PST by cycle of discernment
You’re countering eyewitness testimony with guesswork.
One with consistently questionable motives trying to refute another of highly credible honor.
Time to give up.
A Mulatto kidd home in Hawaii when no classes are being held in any college due to the calendar, who tells me he was raised in Indonesia, Born in Mombassa, and openly told me he wanted to be President??
What are the odds of TWO people in Hawaii with that resume?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Bookem Danu!
Bookem Danu!
Charges of gross negligence of the Constitution, Article II, Section 1.
Is Race Bannon your real name or are you taking that name from the character (Race Bannon)of the 1960’s Johnny Quest Cartoon Series?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=race+bannon&search_type=&aq=0&oq=race+ba
Racebannon is vacationing on Palm Key Island now. LOL!
If you say so.
I always have conversations about the nuances of constitutional law with complete strangers.
especially when they tell you they were born in Mombassa and raised in Indonesia?
After yourself having been in Mombassa?
I mean you sounded real positive in your post....
I would think that you would at the very least say.."Well..maybe I was wrong?"
Aww that’s no fun.
When this happens, are nearby people able to see the “complete strangers,” or do they look at you in a puzzled manner as you converse?
Do these “complete strangers” tell you to do things which are harmful to yourself or others? (If so, don’t do it.) Do they seem to stay the same age as the years go by?
You thought that Obama's COLB was a fake within 15 minutes of seeing it. You've been spreading rumors about Obama being born in Kenya for a year and a half. You were telling people here at FR that Obama was born in Mombasa even before the 2008 election.
And yet you want people to believe that for the last year and half, during all that time that you yourself were saying that Obama was not born in Hawaii, that you secretly remembered a private conversation that you had with a teenage Obama? Wherein he 1) said he grew up in Indonesia, 2) said his mother was an American citizen, 3) said he was born in Mombasa, 4) provided you some reason to think he was "mulatto" (rather than simply black), *AND* 5) said he wanted to be President?
And that while you spent a year asking other people to believe Obama was born in Mombasa, you never thought to mention that he had personally told you that he was born in Mombasa?
You only heard about it first because I was taking a college class, told the professor about people I met in the Corps and she told me to write it out
I see. You wrote this for a college class, yet ended it with "Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained as to why it matters." That sounds suspiciously how someone would end a persuasive piece aimed at people familiar with Birtherism, not how to end a college essay.
I sent the first or seconddraft out to personal friends, one was NY GOE, he posted it online, added a pic of me in 1981 and then it got posted here.
One of those personal friends being Alan Peters, who was actually the first person to post it online. You were personally sending him Birther rumors about the discredited 'TechDude' in July 2008.
Nothing says "This story is credible" like having it premiere on the website of someone who has a history of posting credulous Birther rumors, who has even started some himself, and to whom you have previously sent bad Birther intel.
That radio show 2 days ago is the first national radio show I ever aid anything on, the only other one was a blog talk radio show 2 weeks ago
Was that the same BlogTalkRadio show where you claimed to have also given the Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers their name?
Do you have any more Forrest Gump-style historical encounters in your past? Maybe the time you met a young Lee Greenwood and inspired him to write "God Bless the USA"?
I also was prominent in the Tea Party movement in my state, any attention to me would have brought serious attention to them if I spoke up.
Your Tea Party organization, like all state Tea Party movements, didn't come into existence until early 2009. You were posting here at FR that Obama was born in Kenya and in Mombasa *months* before that. You were preaching the Birther gospel even before Obama was elected, so you can't fall back on the Tea Party as an excuse for your inexplicable year-long silence.
Then again, maybe your memory is accurate, and teenage Obama just made the horribly unfortunate mistake of taking his greatest personal secret, one that his family had gone to great lengths to defraud the Hawaiian government over, and disclosing it to someone who just happened to become a huge Birther thirty years later.
No, the Tamil Tiger radio show was not very many listeners like the Broadcat radio show, so, you are partially correct, but I know last Friday was an audience of thousands, not hundreds like Dame Truth was.
As for the other evidences that you obviously spent the last several days investigating, those are hard truths, opne, checkable, verifiable, clear testimony, not my word against something with no evidence.
And literally, No, I didn’t tell anyone as a group until I sent it to Anti-Mullah and a few other friends at the same time, with one exception: a group of people who were involved in other political events, and I told THEM last March, a year ago, in a private setting.
I’m leaving thhem out of being identified because of morons like you who are only lookng to insult people who come forward. They don’t deserve any abuse like you are spewing
BUMP!
Makes one wonder how our TV channels pick and choose what to serve the public in the guise of “news”.
A Superlative Compilation of this much neglected little shadowplay. A tremendous resouce that you’ve compiled.
Bravo!
And by the way, whether it was Dame Truth or CHandler’s Watch, I didnt call in for Obama, I called in for Iran or for Scott Brown
“To control people, you need larger fonts.”
Lol...
Bravo!
Yeah, we need billboard fonts before we are controlled. Gotta think big.
Hayworth is on board with us. To drop this issue is to abandon Hayworth and help McCain mock the truth.
Here’s something ...
Did the Obama campaign try to foist a forgery on us?
BIOCHEMKY:
I’ll tell you what. I think the idea that the Obama campaign would have used Obama’s sister’s as a template makes sense. That is of course conjecture.
However, here’s what I know about it otherwise. I have read the following:
(a) What was placed in photocopy form on the Obama campaign’s website is a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) which is an item that is provided not at the time of one’s birth, but at any other point afterward
(b) What is prepared at birth by the medical personnel and the administrators of the hospital facility is called a VAULT copy of one’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE (BC). This item is kept by the hospital in their records department. An abbreviated version of the valult copy of the BC is what is actually given to the baby’s parents. The vault copy of the BC stays at the hospital.
(c) The photocoy of the fraudulent COLB on the Obama campaign’s website has the following physical problems:
(1) it has no raised seal impressed (not foiled, just raised) on it visible on the back as it should
(2) it has an emblem on the front that is supposed to be the seal of the state of Hawaii, but this emblem differs quite a bit from the authentic seal of Hawaii
(3) it has a nonauthentic border around the bottom and right hand side when looking at the back of it
(4) it does not cite the attending physician nor carry that individual’s signature
(5) i believe I also read that somehow a person was able to read the registration number on it or at least find out the number of digits in the registration number on it (that is blacked out with heavily black marker), however the information derived is not in agreement with the number sequences that were being given out from the hospital claimed in Aug. of 1961 or there was a different number of digits than should be present.
Personally, I don’t know why someone just doesn’t get ahold of the airline records that will confirm that Stanley Ann Dunham traveled to kenya at about 8 months along and was too far along to be allowed on the plane when she attempted to return to the U.S. to give birth and, thus, she did not return from Kenya until after Obama’s claimed date of birth.
Prove where Stanley Ann Dunham was on Aug. 4, 1961 and by default you also prove where Obama was born.
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I put the forged birth certificate in the criminal column; he defrauded the American people to help him ascend to the highest office in the land, a position for which he is ineligible.
He began by suspending the protections of our constitution (not being a natural born citizen) and he has been chipping away at the bill of rights and each ammendment a little at a time each and evey day.
I wouldn’t “shelve” the issue, I would simply refer to it as often as possible as what it is: a fabricated certification of live birth (COLB) and leave it at that.
Whether that COLB form is a forgery is actually a mute point. This is because: Obama’s father was a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth and, thus, he has no way of claiming that he is a natural born citizen (born of two U.S. citizen parents within the geographic U.S.).
At the time of his birth the only citizenship Obama had received was that from his father, British. This is because although Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, she had not lived in the U.S. for 5 years after her 14th birthday. This was required at the time in order for a citizen to pass on their citizenship when a child was born outside the country. Obama’s mother was only 18 (not 19) at the time Obama was born.
This last part I stated better in the argument laid out below (with links noted):
Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961 at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in the town of Mombasa in the Coast Province of the British colony of Kenya (http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090909/FrntPgObamaEligibility.html). At the time of Obama’s birth, his father, Barack Hussein Obama, was a British citizen (Kenya did not gain its independence from Britain until 1963) and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a United States citizen. According to Federal law, however, as the sole U.S. citizen parent Obama’s mother was not old enough and did not reside in the United States long enough after age 14 to qualify Obama as a United States citizen. The particulars are as follows.
According to Title 3, Chap. 1 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarran-Walter Act, Public Law No. 82-414, 66 Stat. 163) that was passed on June 27, 1952 and applies to persons of birth between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693236/1952-Immigration-and-Nationality-Act-Title3-Chapter1?secret_password=&autodown=pdf), a child born outside of the United States to one citizen parent could acquire United States citizenship if the United States citizen parent had been physically present in the United States for ten (10) years prior to the child’s birth and five (5) of those years were after the parent had reached the age of fourteen.
Obama’s mother was born November 29, 1942 and, thus, she was only 18 years old when Obama was born in Kenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham). As such, Obama’s mother did not meet the age-dependent residency requirements for her child to receive United States citizenship from her. Therefore, Obama is not a United States citizen. Furthermore, he is most certainly not a natural born U.S. citizen which is required of him to be as specified in Article II, section 1 clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in order to hold the office of President or Vice President of the United States (http://www.house.gov/house/Constitution/Constitution.html).
BIOCHEMKY
Your time will not be wasted, FRiend. I plan to keep repeating that on different threads.
[But I’ll quit giving you a heads’ up after this unless you want one.]
— FRegards ....
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