Posted on 03/29/2010 8:07:17 AM PDT by Big Labor Hater
broken clock syndrome
So, you think that if someone doesn’t support the NRA, and especially their historic propensity to support Democrats for public office, they don’t support the Second Amendment?
Blow me. I strapped a uniform on my young ass, got shipped to a foreign land, and killed people so you can stick up for an overpayed self aggrandizing piece of crap.
Now talk to me about who put what on the line to protect all of our rights....
Dude, I have plastic “Silver Bullets”, cheesy certificates and crappy knives. And that was still piss poor PR, you lame crybaby party like BS not withstanding.
Do you make money off those keychains?
Could you post a side by side list of the accomplishments of the GOA as compared to the NRA?
We were really close back in the mid 90’s but the NRA stopped fighting for it. It’s a travesty because the NICS reqirement is the biggest infringment on the RKBA since GCA 68.
For the first time in recent history a person is reqired to prove they are worthy of exercising a fundamental right prior to exercising it, and the courts have upheld it.
Sorry if I missed something, but did you mean to respond to my post, or another? If so, which “he”? Reid or LaPierre?
The NRA doesn’t want to overturn the NICS system anymore. They now fight to “improve” and strenghthen it.
They have also stopped fighting to overturn the Lautenburg amendment and favor enforcing existing laws instead of abolishing them.
Thanks
More than that, N.R.A. said loudly that they did not want a Supreme Court decision because even if they won, it would prove to be a floor to build more regulations instead of a ceiling to stop building them. What we’ve got now is a major city, Chicago, arguing that incorporation only involves the rights they choose to incorporate. We’ve got a D.C. city law that still bans the gun Heller wanted to register. We’ve got the most important right of citizens dependant on the myth that government must be involved in doling it out.
N.R.A. said that it wanted to change peoples’ minds and make them see that the second amendment secures an essential right. It worked. The timeline of shall issue laws demonstrates it clearly, as well as the timeline for castle doctrine laws and stand your ground laws.
That’s not good enough for some people. When the government actually does something that benefits shooters, on one of the extremely rare occasions that it happens, Wayne LaPierre is expected to stick his thumb in Harry Reid’s eye. Sometimes I think that gun owners are the greatest threat to gun owners in this country.
Yea I love the NRA. Not.
I read recently that the NRA helped to write GCA68. When it became common knowledge that the membership wasn’t in favor of it, they went on the record as opposing the bill.
I can’t find the article right now but when I consider their attitude toward the recent NCIS Improvement Act and their penchant for compromising before they even get to the bargaining table I certainly have to believe there’s more than a little truth to the story. I’ve been a member for a number of years but no longer. The really need a “Q” somewhere in their name-— standing for “Quisling.”
If the NRA supports Harry Reid, they are sleeping with the enemy, whether they realize it or not. They certainly, in this case, are not being activists for a good politician, even if he’s acting pro-gun out of political necessity.
You have to understand, the NRA is about protecting the interests of the major firearms manufactuers in the US period. The NRA has supported many anti-second amendment issues to the benefit of the US manufacturers, the 68 GCA and the 922 Commerce ruling to restrict importation of “assult weapons” and parts are two examples, with NICS being another. The NRA truly fears a pure ruling on the 2nd Amendment, for they will be out of business as lobbiests in DC. The NRA reprents a 60% solution, or the center of the bell curve approach to gun control and the 2nd amendment.
Where is the NRA on the Wyoming and Idaho or the other States passing laws to truly force the 2nd Amendment issue with the Federal gov? Quiet and offering zero support just as they did for the Heller case at SCOTUS. In fact, I personally listened to several NRA staff lawyers completely bash and berate the Heller legal team, the premise, approach and personally make derogitory remarks about the plantiffs on the Heller case 3 weeks prior to SCOTUS accepting the case now known as Heller vs. DC.
Funny the case was won to the benefit of all gun owners and for all patriots in the US without the help of the NRA or NSSF. Just as the Wyoming and other States will previal with the Firearms Freedom Acts sans the NRA.
The message here is the NRA does some good, but understand they only do good when it benefits the NSSF/SAAMI voting members and sometimes it is at the expense of all of us. It really is not about the 2nd Amendment for the NRA it is about the large manufacutures of ammunition and weapons in the US, nothing more or less.
They have also stopped fighting to overturn the Lautenburg amendment and favor enforcing existing laws instead of abolishing them.”
Spot on!
This is a good group:
http://www.mtssa.org/
This NRA-backed bill would change Iowa from a “May-Issue” state to a “Shall-Issue” state.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2482805/posts
goa = AWOL
I don’t think you get it, man.
The bill was designe to give left-wing governor chet culver clearance to sign it.
Look through the whole bill. It is amended to no end.
Secondly, it still allows the government to be involved in the personal protection of Iowans.
The government will still know who owns a firearm.
Do you know history? Doesn’t that bother you?
The “REAL Right to Carry Bill” amendment received 45 votes out of 100 in the house yeterday.
It would have made Iowa an “alaska carry” state. Of course culver would not have signed it.
The point is that government would not be involved. You wouldn’t have to ask the government for permission to protect onself.
It should tell you how bad the bill is when the final vote was 80-15. Tons of dems voted for it.
Crap bill.
Could you post a list of all registered guns across the country that the nra is single-handedly responsible for?
And then a list of all the left-wing democrats like harry reid that the NRA supports?
How many millions of little colored post cards has the nra sent out across the country in support of democrats?
All these democrats voted for the nra bill in iowa, a watered down register your gun with the government bill, and will now get those post cards mailed out on their behalf.
GOA has never, ever done that.
wow!!! great link logi2!! all that is great....but nothing there on the C.A.I.R. loving agenda setter and fund raiser, grover norquist. the muslim terrorist, nazi 1930’s style ‘bund’ type group operating right here in within America, attempting with all of it’s might to help overthrow this country. grover norquist is also an nra board member!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! has been for some time and when questioned the nra representatives have told me, AND I quote.....”what nra board members do on their own time is of no concern to the nra”. check into the grover norquist/C.A.I.R/nra love in. you will not believe it. in fact, it is flat hard to believe period.
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