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Family Emergency Survival Kit – How to Build an Emergency Food Supply With All the Essentials
Bestsellers in Emergency Preparedness ^ | 6/29/10

Posted on 06/29/2010 2:53:52 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: wita
That's why it's also imperative to decide which type of heirloom vegetable seeds to purchase NOW - and in your case, you'd be interested in the hot peppers.

Also learn about successful seed storage.

And it's important to learn about growing herbs, as it is about vegetable gardenting.

101 posted on 06/30/2010 5:18:02 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Popman
The cat was looking real tasty

And he thought the same about you.

102 posted on 06/30/2010 5:22:58 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: driftdiver
Next time your family does a "test drive" .... I seriously suggest that each adult have to eat TWO CUPS of plain white rice during the day.

There is NO way to imagine this regimen.

Seriously.

And please realize, it becomes easier & easier & easier the longer you do it, and one even starts CRAVING it when one is hungry. Asians have lived on a rice based diet for millenium, but most Americans would be squirmish to suddenly do likewise.

There are several important things you will learn if you decide to do this.

First, you'll probably quickly decide to buy a quality grinder and a sack of wheat berries, so that you not only have boiled wheatberry hot cereal, but can grind your own flour.

Secondly, once your entire family is eating at least 2 cups of white rice daily, within weeks you suddenly will have scads of extra grocery money, and can seriously start stocking up on large quantities of disaster goods and emergency storage food.

I read about this many years ago, and was shocked when I finally tried it.

Also, there is another thing that is VERY problematic about canned foods. Canned meats have HUGE amounts of purines in them, and purines are a big NO-NO for anyone with gout.

Anyway, plain white rice is more important than even the wheat berries because only very few individuals have any allergy to white rice, while lots of people are allergic or intolerant to wheat.

103 posted on 06/30/2010 5:28:26 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: wita

Perhaps they are chatting about food dehydrators?


104 posted on 06/30/2010 5:36:11 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I don’t think white rice has enough nutrition to stay healthy. I like the wheat berry idea a lot more.


105 posted on 06/30/2010 5:56:37 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: hennie pennie

Yes, I neglected to mention that. We use a lot of rice on a regular basis. We go through about 20 lbs a month regularly. We don’t really like using canned foods but want to have a 3 month supply of them on hand.


106 posted on 06/30/2010 6:19:57 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: palmer; muawiyah
>>> "I don't think white rice has enough nutrition to stay healthy. I like the wheat berry idea a lot more." <<<<

There's scads of information about the storage and use of wheat berries on Mormon websites.

One VERY important thing about WHITE RICE, which lasts indefinitely when properly stored, is to NEVER follow any of the online tutorials about rinsing the rice before cooking it.

The American Rice Board explains that this will rinse away all the vitamins, so do NOT rinse before cooking.

Asians have maintained health on white rice for many generations, besideswhich populations following a rice based diet don't seem to have the obesity problems of the Western Wheat Eaters.

Something I haven't researched is what kind of CORN to purchase so that one can grind cornmeal at home. I presume that it is called FEED CORN, but I'm not sure. Evidentally that is VERY inexpensive, too.

Cornmeal mush is simple to cook; however, ground cornmeal doesn't have a very long shelf life.

107 posted on 06/30/2010 6:26:26 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: driftdiver
Thanks much for the extra information. Are you also using oatmeal? We have lots of glutenfree rice pastas which NEVER seem to age at all, but I'm unsure if they are really "indefinite storage life" like white rice, salt, sugar, cornstarch, cocoa, honey, lard, etc.

I want to get a better hand grinder to use for gringing cornmeal.

There is also another thing you might want to research online, it's sometimes called "Grocery Produce Gardening" or other such times, and often can be found when doing searches including the words 'frugal' or 'frugality,' --- they explain things like how to keep ONE bunch of green onions from the grocery store to perpetually continue to produce the green stalks, or how to successfully grow carrot greens or beet greens for many many months using just the tops of beets or carrots.

It's a good adjunct to sprouting seeds, and if you have kids, they really enjoy this type of indoor "gardening," LOL

108 posted on 06/30/2010 6:34:52 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
Hmm ~ East Asians have been found to have at least 500 genes that have been modified to make it much easier for them to eat, digest and use rice.

This is similar to the genetic changes in European people that enable them to eat, digest and use milk and milk byproducts.

Simply because Chinese are not getting fat on rice doesn't mean YOU won't get fat on rice.

For many Europeans wheat, barley and rye are essentially "poisons". For many Indochinese people the ONLY grain they can eat safely is rice.

Corn is good stuff ~ but the way to stretch its shelflife is to keep it as hard kernals which are ground as needed. The best corn is fresh WHITE, not dry YELLOW.

There are two species of rice ~ some people have to pay attention to whether or not they are eating Indicum or Japonica. There are many species of what is known as "wild rice" ~ this is technically not "rice" but totally different plants with a similar lifestyle wherein their growing cycle is adapted to recurring inundation. All are grasses though.

The most highly productive grains are adapted to life in the milder climates and latitudes. Living in the immediate Subarctic will require you adapt to a carnivorous diet, or learn to digest grass fiber and moss.

109 posted on 06/30/2010 6:35:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
WOW, 500+ genes for the successful ingestion & digestion of rice, hey?

Learn something new every day. That's incredible.

Where does one purchase fresh white corn that can be put into a grinder to make corn meal at home?

Surely one MUST use dried corn????

Have you ever made cornmeal? What worries me, longtermwise, is that when corn was first introduced to Italy, they had the first cases of pellagra, which later became a scourge of the American South -- I am presuming, though, that a small hand mill will NOT remove all the niacin from the corn like the commercial milling process does????

110 posted on 06/30/2010 6:41:39 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
The problem with corn was it had incomplete proteins so you had to eat squash and beans with it ~ the Three Sisters. Modern science has created corn with full proteins.

Modern science also created corn that deer can eat and live on in vast numbers ~

The Indians had a remarkable system. They knocked down their fences and let in the deer to eat the corn at the end of the season (after saving whatever amount they needed). The deer would eat and eat and get fat.

Then the Indians would herd the deer into large enclosures whereupon the village's dogs would be turned loose to kill and eat the deer.

For the rest of the year until fresh fruit and vegetables could be put on the table in Spring and early Summer, the Indians ate the dogs.

Think of them as small, mobile refrigerated food lockers.

111 posted on 06/30/2010 6:49:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: hennie pennie

We have some oatmeal but did dig too deep. We managed to run out of sugar and I detest plain oatmeal. :)

Some bulk flour and a grinder are on our list when we have the money. Our little test really helped us evaluate where we were so some changes will be needed.

Interesting idea about the indoor gardening. We’ll have to try that.


112 posted on 06/30/2010 6:56:54 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Evidentally if you throw a bunch of green onions from the grocery produce section into a pot of sterile soil and water well, and put them in the kitchen window, you can snip off the green tops for MANY months.

It could potentially flavor many bowls of rice, LOL

I believe there's a site called Garden Web where I read about this, they had a very long thread.

ALSO, if there ever is a catastrophic emergency, do NOT eat any of your potatoes.

Why?

You want to let them root so that you can plant them.

You might also try putting some of those beans you already have - dump some in the ground and see for yourself that they will sprout, take root and grow into bean producing plants. We're too busy this year for any gardening, but I've read about this online, that people are just astounded to actually grow their own beans.

I've read some books about Oklahoma in the 1930s where first hand accounts mention that they ate a daily, day after day after day, diet of LIMA BEANS. Lima beans can grow in the intense dry heat -- but the same first hand accounts mentioned that they were never able to figure out how to successfully DRY their lima beans, they invariable got moldy and rotted away. I don't have any experience with this, I've just read about it.

113 posted on 06/30/2010 7:18:50 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: driftdiver
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&sa=2&q=site%3Agardenweb.com+produce+grocery+scallions+frugal ----------------------------------------------- GOOGLE SEARCH RESULTS
114 posted on 06/30/2010 8:02:53 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
Lima Beans? Cat is starting to sound better and better. Cat grease is good for chapped lips or so I've been told. ;-)
115 posted on 06/30/2010 8:21:30 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: y6162
At cocktails parties liberals say if in the event of a x disaster who would want to live. I say me!
I live in hurricane country, and am convinced our dollar will tank in value in the coming year. As a result, I am taking steps to stockpile food staples and ammo, an have a plan for barricading and policing my immediate neighborhood.

I have a (nonprepared, nonplanning, non-taking steps to assure his own survival) friend of a friend who said that when the SHTF, he and his wife would just come over to my house. I told him that his blood would water my lawn, because that's as close as he would get to my home.

He seemd to be taken aback at that. Some people just are so sensitive.

116 posted on 06/30/2010 8:45:31 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

“He seemd to be taken aback at that. Some people just are so sensitive. “

My poker buddies - kidding - said the same thing. I told them that their daughters are welcomed, not kidding =)


117 posted on 06/30/2010 9:13:22 AM PDT by y6162
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To: hennie pennie

Now if everyone thought that way what a wonderful world it would be. There would thankfully not be anyone complaining about people hording food, when in reality, it is people such as you preparing for difficult times. The left takes issue with people who take care of themselves.


118 posted on 06/30/2010 9:13:38 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

I’m thinking that hording should be hoarding.


119 posted on 06/30/2010 9:17:05 AM PDT by wita
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To: Noumenon

There’s only about 8 houses on our road, quite a few couples are in their 80’s but very active. However, even the main road we lead up to is only a two lane, with a couple of farms. We’re also less than a mile from a fish laden river/reservoir.


120 posted on 06/30/2010 9:17:18 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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