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Stop blaming Obama
The Daily Vex ^ | 08/08/2010 | Devon W

Posted on 08/08/2010 9:49:05 PM PDT by HushTX

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To: Candor7

I really like what you included there. I’ve saved it to read again.

And I agree, it needs to be stopped. I suppose the issue is that I am frustrated and spinning my wheels in political mud. I don’t see anything coming of simply crying out at Obama, Peloi and the rest of the Democrats as they pull their hideous anti-American stunts, so I’m looking to the average American as the cure for what ails us.

Sure, my rant was “craptastic” in its diction and style, but is it really wrong to expect more of our peers? Is it really wrong that in a nation founded on the idea that the PEOPLE make the nation WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for our fate and our future?

Frustration is the seed of this, really, and I haven’t a clue how to voice it. Casting ballots isn’t enough when those ballots are dictated by the media and liberal orchestration.

Have you ever been in a position where you know what’s being done isn’t enough, but you don’t know what else to do? That’s sort of how I feel about our current situation. And I think the American people, if held to their duty as citizens, can make the difference here.


81 posted on 08/09/2010 1:15:50 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: Candor7

Polls alone won’t do anything, though. How do we proceed?


82 posted on 08/09/2010 1:16:38 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: tdscpa

Thanks for your constructive input. If you put this kind of effort into the defeat of the liberal moonbats and the Obamanation then victory is assured!

Seriously, this is the kind of weak blather that fuels my frustration and makes me think that the average voter is at fault. If this is how you handle that which you dislike, instead of giving some kind of means by which to address the issue or improve the situation, you’re the kind of person I’m talking about.

Others who have responded have given me exact examples of what the problem is, and drawn my attention to what was unacceptable in my presentation. I’ve taken that into account and will develop my approach as a result.

You whined.

Surely you can see the difference.


83 posted on 08/09/2010 1:20:32 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: HushTX
Have you ever been in a position where you know what’s being done isn’t enough, but you don’t know what else to do? That’s sort of how I feel about our current situation. And I think the American people, if held to their duty as citizens, can make the difference here.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We sure can. First we vote, and if that doesn't work we fight,civil disobediance,demonstrations ,whatever works.You are not alone in your feelings.The whole nation is distraught and ready to rise.

84 posted on 08/09/2010 1:26:14 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes......is a fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: Vendome; Calif4Palin
See, I would have wrote that as: I’m smarter “Than you”....

See it? It’s subtle but, it’s there and is ex-positive of a differential fact.


While I see that and appreciate it, I was trying to take the high road and not criticize the grammar. There's enough juvenile mockery and insulting going on, and I didn't want to contribute. Not that you went quite that far, but surely since there are quite a few insults being slung my way, a response of that sort would have seemed a desperate attempt to distract from the actual point of contention.

I really did have the best intentions here, and while a lot of people seem to have developed the idea that I'm some sort of libtard, just because I don't march in lock step with the average FReeper and have criticized the GOP, conservatives and Americans at large. It's not fair to expect them to be familiar with all of my positions, so they should only judge this post based on its content. I absolutely accept the label of "craptastic" that was levied against it, but don't regret posting it here. How else am I going to get the swift kick in the ass I needed?

But be that as it may, just because someone who implied that I am "less smart" is apparently unable to differentiate between "then" and "than" does not mean I should react with an emotional response and ding them for grammar. I'll just hold their teachers accountable. But, whatever... thanks for the assist, Vendome.
85 posted on 08/09/2010 1:27:48 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: Candor7

Doesn’t that go along with my argument that we should hold the voting populace accountable? After all, who votes? Who fights?

I’m honestly not seeing the disagreement at this point. Perhaps a disagreement with my presentation, but not with the message itself.


86 posted on 08/09/2010 1:29:42 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: HushTX
Just don't wimp out. Thats what people object to. Americans do not like this sort of thing, its not in the tradition of the Republic. Butthis is NOT business as usual. There is no delight in the politics of destruction, but now is the hour of the Obama Junta weakness, not a time for kissy kissy prosthetalyzing. We must strike them to their very heart, no holds barred.

We mean to destroy the Obama Junta utterly and completely, a nasty dirty task. We need to get on with it,even though there is no delight, joy or peace in it.

You will have to face deferred gratification like the rest of us.

87 posted on 08/09/2010 1:36:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes......is a fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: Candor7
So, instead of how I presented this, were I to say something along the lines of:

"Don't just blame Obama, hold yourself and your peers accountable for the mess we've gotten ourselves into. Step up and do something to prevent him from doing more worthy of blame."

Less satisfying, I think, but is that the general manner by which you think this should be presented? I guess it's fair to say I treated the issue with kid gloves and got slapped for it, but I was trying to hold a high road in an otherwise rocky and filthy path tread by liberals.
88 posted on 08/09/2010 1:45:41 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: HushTX

Whatever.

A spade is a spade and Calif4palin has it all in colors.


89 posted on 08/09/2010 1:53:13 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: HushTX

The buck stops in thew WH. No matter he is not directly responsible for each word and action taken by those in his Administration, the ultimate responsibility IS his just as it is with the CEO of a failing company.

Employees do what they are told to do or what they are allowed to do and it is up to their “leader” to lead and direct them. Their failures are his failures.


90 posted on 08/09/2010 2:06:59 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: HushTX

The author is clearly a horse’s *ss. During the Bush administration, everything that went wrong was “Bush’s fault.” Harry Truman famously said, “The buck stops here.”

If Obama - America’s answer to Lenin - doesn’t like being president, he’s more than welcome to retire on his big, fat pension and let someone do the job who knows his butt from a hole in the ground.


91 posted on 08/09/2010 3:25:04 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: HushTX

Hold your peers accountable is disempowering. You couldn;t sell that to a naked monkey. Look . Obama is the closer to a movement which has beenworkinng steadily to take over the country. He is an enemey. You do not spin such a person to becomme less than he is as an enemy.

The country has awakened, and the nation’s attitude has to be fixed and ruthless.And there is nothong that can be done about it. Treason and farud deserve that. The nation deserves to be safe from them.There is no way that could or should be pacified.We fight socialist revolutionaries. You either join or get out of the way.

History is full of your ilk. The German people went about sayong the same thing to cosrvatives who wanted to fight Hitler early on, and look what hap[ened then. We are in a parallel situation.


92 posted on 08/09/2010 7:06:35 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes......is a fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: HushTX

Try looking at it this way:

Obama is the symptom. A polity that would run and then elect him is the disease.

Both have to be treated. After all, it’s the symptoms of a disease that kill you.

Now, not all of the polity is infected with the disease, but too much of it is. And the symptom is pretty awful.

To treat the symptom, we need to Blame Obama and do all we can to oppose his agenda.

To treat the disease, we need to educate the polity and make sure we keep motivated.


93 posted on 08/09/2010 8:03:06 AM PDT by piytar (Those who never learned that peace and freedom are rare will be taught by reality.)
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To: HushTX

>>I didn’t either. How does that make you smarter than me?

Did not mean you, but the author. Guess my limited education did not help me reply clearly.

Guess I’d better just set back and read only and keep my comments to myself.


94 posted on 08/09/2010 10:40:04 AM PDT by TrumpisRight (Proud Moosehead....)
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To: Calif4Palin; Jack Hammer

No, please don’t keep your comments to yourself. I actually want to hear what people have to say.

And I am the author, so by Jack’s standard I am a “horse’s ass.”

Listen, I realize I flopped with the presentation itself. I’m going to address this again after I have considered the various criticisms offered in this thread, and hopefully I can more clearly present my point. I still feel that we, as Americans, ALL of us, are the ones responsible and that the willful ignorance of those around us is the illness that plagues us.

So far I find the primary flaw to be that I directly referenced Republicans who have voted in RINOs, and voters who have allowed incumbents to remain in power despite their abuses but said little to nothing about the Democrats who have done the same. I think the reason for this is that I expect more of conservatives and Republicans than I do liberals, and THAT in itself is anathema to my argument, as I am arguing that EVERYONE should be held accountable. On the other hand, we’re always criticizing the left for its flaws but never looking at our own contributions, so that also influenced my approach.

I think a more accurate and appropriate means to address this would be to provide equal examination of both sides and the contributions to our dangerous situation, rather than just laying accusations on “my side.” That certainly seems to have given my piece a liberal slant that, frankly, pisses me off. I can’t blame anyone here for taking this poorly, as if someone else had written it and I didn’t know them better I probably would have jumped to the same conclusions.


95 posted on 08/09/2010 11:08:56 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: HushTX
Have you ever been in a position where you know what’s being done isn’t enough, but you don’t know what else to do?

Yup. I am hoping enough people feel what you are feeling.

97 posted on 08/09/2010 1:39:55 PM PDT by riri
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