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To: butterdezillion

I knew BHO’s BC had been amended but how do we know that? Also, do ho have a list of the ways one can get an HA BC?


15 posted on 08/11/2010 1:44:39 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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I knew BHO’s BC had been amended but how do we know that? Also, do ho have a list of the ways one can get an HA BC?

Bjorn, we don't need any birth certificates. Chief Justices John Marshall, Morrison Waite and Charles Evans Hughes wrote, in supreme court decisions that a natural born citizen is “born of the soil of citizen parents.” The principle author of the 14th amendment John Bingham said to the House of Representatives while arguing for the passage in 1866 “...which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen.”

If we have a write-in candidate in Bilbray’s district, we should vote Bilbray out of office. Every Senator signed Senate Res. 511 in 2008 clarifying natural born citizen in order to make McCain appear eligible. In SR 511 Leahy, McCaskill and former Judge Michael Chertoff said “...because he was born of two American citizen, it is my belief that John McCain is a natural born citizen.” All of our legislators, much as I approve of some of their efforts to end Obamacare and defend our borders, have agreed to try to keep us “stupid” about the clear meaning of our framers and justices. They even avoid John Bingham, "The Madison of the 14th Amendment," as they discuss the likely misinterpretation leading to anchor babies. It is too dangerous an issue. Nathan Deal was one congressman with the courage to ask. When he did, the House Ethics Committee suddenly found something suspicious in his distant past (I'm glad to see he prevailed in Georgia's Governor's race, not that his Rep. Opponent was not worth).

The moment some Obot raises Wong Kim Ark, pay no attention. The definition of natural born citizenship has never been changed, and was last cited in 1939 in Perkins v. Elg by Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes. Wong Kim was made a citizen, not a natural born citizen, and its author, Justice Grey, cited Minor v. Happersett - ‘born on the soil of citizen parents’ for natural born citizenship.

Wpmg Kim's Justice Grey, perhaps not coincidentally, because his decision is a bit crazy with irrelevent commentary (dicta) was the only Supreme Court Justice until Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor appointed by an ineligible president, Chester Arthur. We didn't learn about Chester Arthur's crime until attorney Leo Donofrio found Arthur's father's naturalization documents in 2008. Arthur's father was a British subject, not naturalized until Chester was 14 years old. Obama’s father was never naturalized, never a citizen, never had sole allegiance to the U.S. and its Constitution, thus Barack is simply and clearly ineligible to be president.

Do you have any doubt that this government, either party, would lie to the public? They, as individuals, would clearly lie to protect their incomes, and to protect themselves from charges which could extends as far as treason, one of the few words actually defined in the Constitution - most terms in the Constitution are intentionally defined by common usage - common law. Bilbray is a team player, a small time career politician, and his career is on the line. He's a Republican in a very blue state. We pay legislators to know and respect the Constitution. Either he doesn't know it, or he doesn't respect it. I suspect both statements are true.

While it sounds audacious, read a just a bit and you will learn that there is no doubt, no uncertainty, and that who is a citizen and who are natural born citizens is at the core of our republic of laws rather than a nation built upon privilege and bloodlines.

One of the best references to the legal foundation of presidential eligibility the site run by a retired Naval Commander and his citizenship-expert and international law attorney, Mario Appuzo. http://puzo1.blogspot.com/ Their case was filed after the election but before the inauguration, and is working its way to the Supreme Court. Cmdr. Kerchner and Apuzzo make a compelling “equal protections” case since McCain had at least five congressional hearings about his ineligibility; the Commander sent registered letters to congress asking many congressmen to evaluate Obama’s eligibility. Obama even signed Sen.Res. 511, effectively agreeing that a natural born citizen has two U.S. citizen parents. He also cosponsored a bill. SB 2678, by Obama election committee member and senator Clair McCaskill in Feb 2008 “to make the children of U.S. citizens in the military born on foreign soil eligible to the presidency.” Who do you think they were talking about? The Dems paved the way for the ineligible McCain so that no Republican would dare raise the issue of Obama’s patent ineligibility. Raising the issue would certainly have cause Dems to remove McCain. Hillary was probably stronger than Obama anyway, and no credible Republican was there to challenge Hillary.

This is massive corruption in both parties. Both parties want the public to remain ignorant - not stupid; who ever read the history of natural born citizenship before this? The courts are, as Justice Thomas pointed out recently, “evading the issue.” The people need to purge both the house and the senate. Our press and pundits are afraid of truth. When they assiduously avoid our greatest Chief Justices, John Jay, John Marshall, author of Marbury v. Madison, becuase he was so clear about Vattel and repeated “born on the soil of citizen parents,” you know something is wrong. Notice that Glen Beck never mentions them. Mark Levin, who lays the foundation in his book Liberty and Tyranny by quoting Madison (p37) who explains that the Constitution is meaningless if not interpreted in the language of the framers. Have our pundits been threatened? Probably.

So we must relearn the obvious, that the allegiance of a son or daughter is most dependent upon the allegiance of the parent. The idea was repeated by Aristotle and frequently by other Greek and Roman philosopher. It became part of “the natural law”, the first original legal curriculum taught in the new U.S., established at William and Mary by Thomas Jefferson in 1779. The book Jefferson chose was Vattel’s Law of Nations, one of many based upon variants of the natural law, but by far the most popular. (Don't you think Glen Beck would have included this remarkable and most important thread in the thinking of our framers if he hadn't been threatened?) John Marshall was a law student at William and Mary in 1880. George Washington, an uncle of Marshall, was interviewed by the press on his first day in office in New York in 1789. The press reported that the only book on his desk was Law of Nations. The New York Lending library records exist, showing Washington withdrew Vattel, and never returned it!

Ridicule is an effective tactic for suppressing facts. Think for yourselves. Requiring that our president be born of parents who support the principles of our founding is more than rational, it is wisdom born of millenia of human experience. Also, it is our law. We, a nation of immigrants, demand natural born citizenship only for our president. The majority of our citizens are natural born citizens. Those who ignore our framers and Constitution are sadly demonstrating their weakness. Clever adversaries control much of our media. Even Fox and the WSJ are owned by News Corp. whose largest investor is Walid Bin Talal (who funded Obama at Harvard according to Percy Sutton, and is a major benefactor of Harvard).

Mark Levin made a veiled threat to raise the issue of Obama’s father if Obama continued attacking a “grassroots” organization with which he is involved. It may be that those using public media know how dependent our media are upon government (just keep track of the Ad Council-sponsored spots on radio some time). The fear is understandable, but if Obama succeeds, the First Amendment will shortly be as relevant as natural born citizenship. Whatever the reason, there is simply no question that Obama was born of a British father, and thus was born a British subject - he was not born with sole allegiance to the U.S. - and is not a constitutional president. Obama was perfectly honest about his allegiance in “Dreams from my Father.” We let it happen; we are paying the price, and we must now correct that mistake.

22 posted on 08/14/2010 5:15:36 PM PDT by Spaulding
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