Prop 19: Amsterdam Psychiatrist Blasts US Drug Czars for Distortions, Fear-Mongering

MND ^ | Friday, September 3, 2010 | Dr. Frederik Polak

[Daveinyork]

“They’re not in the movement for the rights of the individual or the unconstitutional manner of prohibition, they’re in it for the potential profit. “

Profit? Horrors!!!!

[KDD]

Justice Thomas, dissenting.

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

[Daveinyork]

Even a broken clock is right twoce a day.

[wolf78]

Most outrageously, the drug czars ignore the well known and undisputed statistics that show that Dutch use of cannabis remains about half that of the US and is comparable to – or less than – use in our neighboring countries with more repressive policies. Moreover, Dutch heroin use rates are also less than half of US rates. We attribute that fact to what we call the “separation of the markets” for hard and soft drugs.

As far as I know the average (NB! - i.e. even though most Californians probably don't consume cannabis, the math evens out this way) Californian consumes more dollars worth of Cannabis than fruits and vegetables.

Talk about inflated prices!

[Daveinyork]

“And knowing that these groups/financiers want to own and run Medical Marijuana Dispensaries means nothing to you?
They’re not in the movement for the rights of the individual or the unconstitutional manner of prohibition, they’re in it for the potential profit. “

this is why socialism always fails: Even the socialists are in it for the profit. It is the socialists have it backwards. It is the socialists who will sell the capitalists the tools for burying the socialists.

[cripplecreek]

Soros supports wide open legalization because he likes easily controlled drug sodden morons.

[philman_36]

It isn't just the profits, it's also the way in which they're manipulating the proposed laws.
Just like any special interest group they're shaping it to benefit themselves and not everyone.
It's wrong on principal.

[cripplecreek]

My price is apparently a lot higher than yours.

[KDD]

It is always humorus to see Soros portrayed as some kind of Lex Luther of Capitalism. Though he strongly supported the medical marijuana prop. which passed in California, proponents of 19 have complained that he has kept his wallet shut for this one.

[philman_36]

I know you've got a thing about Soros. I'm not keen on the man either, ya know.

Soros supports wide open legalization because he likes easily controlled drug sodden morons.
That being said...thanks for your unsubstantiated opinion.
At least try to figure out the reason why he does what he does instead of posting brain dead inanities. You're better than that.

[cripplecreek]

Its always humorous to listen to you drug sodden morons speak with a mouth full of little george.

[KDD]

It allows individual grows. If you don’t like the makeup of the market you can opt out of it and produce your own.

[Tainan]

Thanks for the link. Good site - I will now have to add it to my reading list.
Another of the unfortunate instances of the WOD has been the confiscation of peoples monies when stopped during normal transit to & from legitimate business dealings and the "windfall peaches" of confiscation of property by LEOs acting without regard to the Constitutional laws regarding private property.
All part & parcel of the hideous WOD foisted upon the American populace - condoned, continued and supported by the "legal" system.

[philman_36]

Though he strongly supported the medical marijuana prop. which passed in California, proponents of 19 have complained that he has kept his wallet shut for this one.
That's because of the way 19 is worded! He wouldn't benefit from it through dispensaries so he didn't back it.

Marijuana in California: Prop. 19 won't stop federal drug enforcement
Should California voters approve Proposition 19, legalizing personal marijuana growth, use, and distribution on Nov. 2, the federal government says it will still prosecute violators of federal drug laws in the state.
Snip...Prop. 19 would allow Californians 21 and older to grow up to 25 square feet of cannabis plants, and to possess up to an ounce of marijuana.

No cornered market through dispensaries if everyone over 21 can grow it for personal use.

[philman_36]

It allows individual grows. If you don’t like the makeup of the market you can opt out of it and produce your own.
See #34. He didn't want to support it because of the language. He is a manipulative jerk wad!

[KDD]

He is #35 on Forbes richest list. Looking at the rest of the list I can see some wealthy conservatives who devote much of their resources to their causes. I salute them for putting their money where their mouth is. They have more money then Soros and use it well to counteract his agenda. I don't need a bogeyman. I already have one...our government.

[philman_36]

I would really like to see a response from you regarding my replies #34/#35.
Does it make sense or not? Can you see how he's manipulating the issue?

[KDD]

From the growers up in Humbolt county to the medical dispensaries in Oakland, there is a lot of “I've got mine” opposition to 19.

[Daveinyork]

“My price is apparently a lot higher than yours.”

Is your price the violation of the US Constitution?

[philman_36]

They have more money then Soros and use it well to counteract his agenda.
What, in your opinion, is his agenda?