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Civil Political Discourse? Riiiight!
Grand Rants ^ | 01-12-11 | Stoutcat

Posted on 01/13/2011 8:39:30 AM PST by Stoutcat

Oh yes, please, let’s adopt legislation outlawing the use of bullseyes on maps. And while we’re at it, let’s tone down the inflammatory rhetoric, shall we? Because that will help bring us all back to a golden time when discourse, even political discourse, was civil and dignified. Right?

So say goodbye to terms like riding shotgun, bullet points, killer apps, not by a long shot, whipping into shape, battleground states, targeting your opponent, in the crosshairs, death panels, campaign strategy, and whatever else you can imagine as potentially deadly invective which would contribute to a climate of hate.

Don’t you see? The world will be safer if all you wingnut redneck gun-totin’ Bible-clingin’ inbred hillbilly stump-jumpers would just tone it down a bit...

The violence inherent in language is part of life, and each of us learns how to deal with it in our own way. The very vast majority of us do just fine. That almost vanishingly small percentage who are truly evil or are hopelessly mentally ill are not swayed one way or the other by the language used around them. They are what they are, and society deals with them as best it can.

So don’t tell me what I can or can’t say, either in political discourse or in any conversation.

Them’s fightin’ words.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandrants.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: civility; discourse; giffords; slogans; tucson

1 posted on 01/13/2011 8:39:33 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat
let’s adopt legislation outlawing the use of bullseyes on maps.

From 2008...

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http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png

2 posted on 01/13/2011 8:43:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Stoutcat
From 2 DAYS before the shooting...

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KOS: My CongressWOMAN [Giffords] voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
dailyKOS via google cache ^ | BoyBlue

Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:39:18 PM by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653556/posts

3 posted on 01/13/2011 8:43:39 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Stoutcat
Following the shooting...

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Sarah Palin's Culpability in Attempted Assassination of Giffords
by BJ Rudell
Sat Jan 08, 2011 at 12:23:13 PM PST
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/8/934315/-Sarah-Palins-Culpability-in-Attempted-Assassination-of-Giffords

4 posted on 01/13/2011 8:44:10 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Stoutcat
campaign

Can't even use "campaign" because it comes from the Latin word "campus" referring to a field, specifically a nice flat space to have a battle.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=campaign

5 posted on 01/13/2011 8:48:28 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: Stoutcat

Of course they are not after civility (I believe in a polite society - more gets done with less hassle). This is all about CONTENT. Telling things the way they are hurts progressives. “I don’t give ‘em he’ll, I tell the truth and they think it’s he’ll”, attributed to Harry Truman but can be applied to progressives today.


6 posted on 01/13/2011 8:51:12 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: Stoutcat
What will we call "campaigns" from now on? We certainly can't continue to call them "campaigns." I mean, everyone knows that that is a military term for a planned, extended armed conflict.

These imbeciles are over the edge, around the bend, and useless. Spent. Played, finished, over, done.

;-/

7 posted on 01/13/2011 8:51:19 AM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ Bachmann 2012... just call it "Pa-Bach!" (AKA "Liberal Head Cemtex"))
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To: Gargantua
Heh. Maybe we just call everything "man-caused disasters" from now on!
8 posted on 01/13/2011 8:55:49 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: ETL
So are you suggesting the Daily Kos caused a psychotic to slip his grip and shoot all those people?

My arguemnt is not that this side or that side caused this (and things like this) to happen; my arguement is that it would have happened even if all our speech were populated strictly with butterflies and unicorn metaphors. Some people are simply crazy. And some people are simply evil.

And the only thing we can do is grab 'em before they explode if we can, and pick up the pieces and move on if we can't.

9 posted on 01/13/2011 9:00:42 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat
So don’t tell me what I can or can’t say, either in political discourse or in any conversation.

If we were all to respond in this manner the left would instantly lose all control over the political dialogue in this country.

Being basically honest & moral, we're always playing defense, soul searching in response to liberal accusations against us. We hamstring ourselves.

These people don't debate in good faith, are prone to dishonesty in pursuit of their political goals, and really hate those with whom they disagree. Why should we constantly accept their premise for debate?

We don't have to adapt their noxious tactics wholesale, but we can learn this much from them - we have to learn to choose the ground from which we fight.

10 posted on 01/13/2011 9:06:48 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Stoutcat
So are you suggesting the Daily Kos caused a psychotic to slip his grip and shoot all those people?

Although it's not 100% out of the question (the guy was apparently a lunatic lefty), I was rather pointing out the extreme hypocrisy of the left claiming Palin was responsible because SHE "targeted" various dems.

11 posted on 01/13/2011 9:22:08 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: skeeter
Yes, I agree. And I am probably one of the most polite people in the world, both by upbringing and by inclination.

I think most people of good will (and by that I mean most people of the right and the left) understand the concept of attracting more flies with honey than vinegar. That said, nobody had better try to curtail my right to free speech, whatever that speech may be.

It's just the the rabid left is so out there, they live in cloud cuckoo land and really don't care what they say or how they say it.

Also, this plays into their Alinsky tactic of making us live up to our ideals--which is a lofty goal at best, and impossible at worst. We are, after all, only human. But the left gets the best of that argument, as they have no ideals to live up (or down) to.

So you're correct on this one; we'll always be on the defense, as most of the ideals of the far left are almost exclusively all offensive (in both meanings of the word).

12 posted on 01/13/2011 9:39:31 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: ETL

Yeah, that’s what I figured, and in cases like this, the far left will always have the upper hand simply because they don’t care how they say it or how it sounds.

Hypocrisy simply isn’t on their list of things to worry about.


13 posted on 01/13/2011 9:42:21 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat; OneVike
Tucson Assassin Was A Zeitgeistist, A What?
ChicoER Gate ^ | 1/13/10 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:45:31 PM by OneVike

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14 posted on 01/13/2011 10:13:58 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Gargantua
These imbeciles are over the edge, around the bend, and useless.

See George Orwell's 1984 for examples of "progressive thinking" run to its inevitable conclusion. Big Brother thought to make mankind perfect by eliminating sin. What better way then eliminating words from the language that describe sin. By enforcing politically correct thought and removing "dangerous" words from the common vocabulary (newspeak) they intended to make it impossible to form sinful concepts since you would no longer be able to describe sinful acts.

Cain slew Able without knowing the word "fratricide", 1984 and newspeak will work just about as well.

Regards,
GtG

15 posted on 01/13/2011 11:06:25 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Plus, thanks to Mal and the crew, we all know what happened on Miranda...


16 posted on 01/13/2011 1:00:31 PM PST by Stoutcat (I aim to misbehave)
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To: Stoutcat
thanks to Mal and the crew, we all know what happened on Miranda...

I really miss that show. Heaven protect us from well intended liberals, Pax Humana, and overreaching technology. So it is, so it shall be, the same as it ever was...

Regards,
GtG

PS I aim to misbehave!

17 posted on 01/14/2011 5:31:37 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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